From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACC82360 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 19:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imap.thunk.org (imap.thunk.org [74.207.234.97]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D8431E7 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 19:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 15:58:05 -0400 From: Theodore Ts'o To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" Message-ID: <20160828195805.z4tyu3bcabpfyqpw@thunk.org> References: <20160826193331.GA29084@jra3> <87inunxf14.fsf@ebb.org> <20160827162655.GB27132@kroah.com> <87bn0dnc6f.fsf@ebb.org> <1472348609.2440.37.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20160828042454.GA8742@jeremy-acer> <20160828125542.7oejzcbpeozkrq3k@thunk.org> <87y43gx3jq.fsf@ebb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y43gx3jq.fsf@ebb.org> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 09:26:49AM -0700, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > > Finally, with regard generally to my past statements, I see a tendency by a > small few on this thread to look at statements I made in years ago, and > shoehorn those statements as a response to something specific in this > discussion. This is particularly strange behavior given that I am *actually* > responding actively to this thread -- it's not as if I'm some inaccessible > public figure whom you can't ask to clarify and discuss an issue. Actually, we're taking it from your 2016 LCA talk, "Copyleft for the Next Decade: A Comprehensive Plan", which you gave in February of this year. And one of the things which is interesting is that on this thread, there's an emphasis on "oh, we just want to get access to the source", whereas in the talk, it's more of "Linux will be the battleground over the future of Copyleft", with an explicit and clear emphasis of trying to litigate the question of kernel modules in multiple legal jourisdictions. Well, people who live near battlegrounds often have a different opinion about sending in the troops compared to generals back in Washington D.C. whore are ordering in the drone strikes. So this is where listening to regrets of one of the Busybox founders might be educational. The reason why it's fair game to compare your statements with statements made a few months ago is for the same reason why the Daily Show played back old clips of politicians. One of the really powerful things about You Tube and modern video technology in general is that it's much harder for politicians to say one thing to one constituency, and another thing to a different constituency. And to my mind, that's a really good thing. Regards, - Ted