From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2E1F412 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 19:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imap.thunk.org (imap.thunk.org [74.207.234.97]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9952D1B3 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 19:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 15:36:56 -0400 From: Theodore Ts'o To: Jeremy Allison Message-ID: <20160828193656.cbd64qqenmpsbiwp@thunk.org> References: <20160826193331.GA29084@jra3> <87inunxf14.fsf@ebb.org> <20160827162655.GB27132@kroah.com> <87bn0dnc6f.fsf@ebb.org> <1472348609.2440.37.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20160828042454.GA8742@jeremy-acer> <20160828125542.7oejzcbpeozkrq3k@thunk.org> <20160828154356.GA16414@jeremy-acer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160828154356.GA16414@jeremy-acer> Cc: James Bottomley , "Bradley M. Kuhn" , ".jra"@samba.org, Linus Torvalds , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 08:43:56AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 08:55:42AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > > For the record, I believe there can be a case for the shiny red > > button. I just want Linus, and not the SFC (or some --- as admitted > > by the SFC --- minority set of developers), to be the one who decides > > when it's appropriate to push it. > > > > I've said it before, and I've said it again. For me, this is much > > more about a project governance issue. We don't let random pissed off > > army officers decide when to start World War III... > > Ted, there is a massive inconsistency here. > > For decisions on legal action you want a top-town, corporate > power structure - with only authorized management making > decisions on when and how to proceed. I didn't say that. I said consensus driven and taking into account all of the stakeholders. If it makes you feel better, how about "Linus as the benevolent dictator"? He makes a point of gathering input from multiple stakeholders, and delegating authority to others for day to day decisions. That's how we do our development, after all. - Ted