From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A9B6C for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 05:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from protestant.ebb.org (protestant.ebb.org [50.56.179.12]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CA8AEB for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 05:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:38:57 -0700 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Message-ID: <20160828053857.GA23607@ebb.org> References: <20160826193331.GA29084@jra3> <87inunxf14.fsf@ebb.org> <20160827162655.GB27132@kroah.com> <20160827230210.GA6717@jeremy-acer> <20160827233521.GC6717@jeremy-acer> <20160828044720.qlufilo6w7iupgrt@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160828044720.qlufilo6w7iupgrt@thunk.org> Cc: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Theodore Ts'o wrote a little while ago: > and act even on matters where Linus has expressed a clear preference that > it is *not* in the best interst of Linux, I can't figure out which matter you're talking about here. It can't be VMware, because, as I posted yesterday [0], I specifically talked with Linus about VMware before Conservancy made a commitment to work with Christoph, and Linus said "what they're doing is in bad taste and someone should probably do something about it". > It's the fact that the Conservancy feels that it can cherry pick > developers, The cherry-pick went the other way: developers cherry-picked *us*. As previously explained [1], developers came to Conservancy to ask us to help them enforce because no one else would help. Once Harald's organization, gpl-violations.org, was defunct, it was tough to keep saying "no" to them, so we finally just said "yes". (BTW, Harald told us in April that he may get gpl-violations.org running again, and if so he will coordinate with Conservancy.) Also, either side can terminate the enforcement agreements at any time: the developers if they no longer trust Conservancy, or Conservancy can terminate if Conservancy chooses not to help those developers enforce anymore. [0] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-discuss/2016-August/003637.html [1] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-discuss/2016-August/003620.html -- -- bkuhn ======================================================================== Become a Conservancy Supporter today: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter