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From: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 23:56:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160812205605.GK4186@mwanda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1lelt2s.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:38:35AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12 2016, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 03:57:40PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > I guess that almost all functions return only a few possible error codes?
> >> 
> >> Precisely. If we had a way of specifying "the return value is an errno
> >> with the possible values '0', '-EIO', and '-EINVAL'" that would be
> >> _so_ cool.
> >
> > I think that's a bad idea.  We should be propagating errors from the
> > functions we call.  It should be able to change without breaking.
> 
> Should we?  I recently faced a bug caused by a (proposed) change to
> btrfs which returned a different error code to the ->fh_to_dentry()
> function. That was being propagated up to nfsd, and out on the wire in
> the NFSv4 protocol.
> Only the new error was invalid for the protocol and the client
> (correctly) reported it to user-space rather than handling it
> internally.
> 
> This happened because not enough thought/documentation had been given to
> which error codes were sensibly meaningful.  I changed
> exportfs_decode_fh() so that any error other than ENOMEM became ESTALE,
> because that is all nfsd can sensibly handle.
> 
> I'm sure there are some (many!) paths where error codes should be
> propagated transparently, but I don't think we should assume that is
> always true.
> 

My guess is that 97% of the time it should be propagated.

> >
> > Smatch does a pretty good job of tracking return values, especially
> > if you rebuild the database over and over once a day like I do.
> 
> So it is OK to keep a list of valid return values in a database, but not
> OK to keep them in the code as documentation, and to alert the
> programmer when they make a change so they can declare (and maybe even
> document) if it was an intentional change?

What I'm saying is that no one wants a thing where if we change a
return code, we have to update the documentation for all the call
trees.

regards,
dan carpenter

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-12 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-19 15:32 Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-19 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-19 18:52   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-19 20:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 15:53     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-20 17:04       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] [TECH TOPIC] Support (or move towards to) LLVM Jiri Kosina
2016-07-20 18:35         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-20 18:52           ` Mark Brown
2016-07-21  9:54         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 13:41           ` Shuah Khan
2016-07-21 14:02             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 16:21               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-23  3:28                 ` Behan Webster
2016-07-21 18:38           ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-21 20:47             ` Paul Turner
2016-07-26 11:22             ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-19 21:08 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel James Bottomley
2016-07-20  0:08   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20  7:32     ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-20 12:11     ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28  3:33       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-19 21:26 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-20  2:36   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:03   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:49     ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 19:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 20:56         ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 22:21           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-21 23:33   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22  6:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22  6:14     ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 13:57       ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 14:40         ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 19:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-26 11:48         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 12:53           ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-26 13:59             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-26 13:53           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-27 12:40           ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-27 13:25             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 13:33               ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 17:21                 ` Bird, Timothy
2016-08-01 22:17                   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-12  1:29                     ` Stephen Boyd
2016-08-11 15:44         ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12  0:38           ` NeilBrown
2016-08-12 20:56             ` Dan Carpenter [this message]
2016-08-12  3:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  4:01             ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-12  4:07               ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  5:29                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-08-12  5:38                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:04                     ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12  6:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12  6:37                         ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12  5:50                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-04  7:15       ` NeilBrown
2016-08-04 11:19         ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22  7:03   ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:10     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:13     ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:22       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:53         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 11:05         ` David Howells
2016-07-22 17:18           ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 18:19     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 19:43       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-28  3:40   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-28  7:12   ` David Howells
2016-08-02 10:48   ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04 11:31     ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-04 12:07       ` Jani Nikula
2016-07-22 11:19 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 12:44   ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-22 13:26   ` David Howells
2016-08-12  4:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <871t1ulfvz.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-12  5:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23       ` NeilBrown
     [not found]       ` <87y442jytb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-15 23:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12  6:23   ` NeilBrown

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