From: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 23:56:05 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160812205605.GK4186@mwanda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1lelt2s.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:38:35AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12 2016, Dan Carpenter wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 03:57:40PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I guess that almost all functions return only a few possible error codes?
> >>
> >> Precisely. If we had a way of specifying "the return value is an errno
> >> with the possible values '0', '-EIO', and '-EINVAL'" that would be
> >> _so_ cool.
> >
> > I think that's a bad idea. We should be propagating errors from the
> > functions we call. It should be able to change without breaking.
>
> Should we? I recently faced a bug caused by a (proposed) change to
> btrfs which returned a different error code to the ->fh_to_dentry()
> function. That was being propagated up to nfsd, and out on the wire in
> the NFSv4 protocol.
> Only the new error was invalid for the protocol and the client
> (correctly) reported it to user-space rather than handling it
> internally.
>
> This happened because not enough thought/documentation had been given to
> which error codes were sensibly meaningful. I changed
> exportfs_decode_fh() so that any error other than ENOMEM became ESTALE,
> because that is all nfsd can sensibly handle.
>
> I'm sure there are some (many!) paths where error codes should be
> propagated transparently, but I don't think we should assume that is
> always true.
>
My guess is that 97% of the time it should be propagated.
> >
> > Smatch does a pretty good job of tracking return values, especially
> > if you rebuild the database over and over once a day like I do.
>
> So it is OK to keep a list of valid return values in a database, but not
> OK to keep them in the code as documentation, and to alert the
> programmer when they make a change so they can declare (and maybe even
> document) if it was an intentional change?
What I'm saying is that no one wants a thing where if we change a
return code, we have to update the documentation for all the call
trees.
regards,
dan carpenter
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-19 15:32 Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-19 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-19 18:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-19 20:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 15:53 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-20 17:04 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] [TECH TOPIC] Support (or move towards to) LLVM Jiri Kosina
2016-07-20 18:35 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-20 18:52 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-21 9:54 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 13:41 ` Shuah Khan
2016-07-21 14:02 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 16:21 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-23 3:28 ` Behan Webster
2016-07-21 18:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-21 20:47 ` Paul Turner
2016-07-26 11:22 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-19 21:08 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel James Bottomley
2016-07-20 0:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 7:32 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-20 12:11 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28 3:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-19 21:26 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-20 2:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:49 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 20:56 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 22:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-21 23:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 6:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 6:14 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 13:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 14:40 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 19:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-26 11:48 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 12:53 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-26 13:59 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-26 13:53 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-27 12:40 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-27 13:25 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 17:21 ` Bird, Timothy
2016-08-01 22:17 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-12 1:29 ` Stephen Boyd
2016-08-11 15:44 ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12 0:38 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-12 20:56 ` Dan Carpenter [this message]
2016-08-12 3:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 4:01 ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-12 4:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 5:29 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-08-12 5:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:04 ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12 6:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 6:37 ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12 5:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-04 7:15 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-04 11:19 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 7:03 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:10 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:13 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:22 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 11:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 17:18 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 18:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 19:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-28 3:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-28 7:12 ` David Howells
2016-08-02 10:48 ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04 11:31 ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-04 12:07 ` Jani Nikula
2016-07-22 11:19 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 12:44 ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-22 13:26 ` David Howells
2016-08-12 4:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <871t1ulfvz.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-12 5:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` NeilBrown
[not found] ` <87y442jytb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-15 23:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` NeilBrown
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