From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: NeilBrown <nfbrown@novell.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:34:12 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160812082417-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871t1ulfvz.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 03:23:28PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12 2016, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:32:51AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> I would really like to get a feel among kernel maintainers and
> >> developers if this is something that is interesting, and what kind of
> >> constraints they think something like this would need to be usable for
> >> the kernel?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >
> > Surprised that no one mentioned this yet - I think tagging
> > integers/structs as coming from userspace could be useful,
> > if we can teach e.g. smatch that access to a kernel
> > pointer through this offset might fault.
>
> We already have that.
> Sparse recognizes
> __attribute__((noderef, address_space(1)))
> to mean "this is a pointer to a different address space which
> cannot be dereferened" and linux has
>
> # define __user __attribute__((noderef, address_space(1)))
>
> so if you mark a pointer as "__user", then sparse will complain
> if you dereference it.
>
> We've had this for over a decade :-)
>
> https://lwn.net/Articles/87538/
>
> NeilBrown
Of course, everyone uses these. But what I mean is tagging index types:
int data[256];
int foo(u32 __user *ptr)
{
u32 i;
if (get_user(i, ptr))
return -EFAULT;
data[i] = 0;
^^^ security vulnerability
}
Above, i is coming from userspace and so must always be range-checked
before it's used as an index.
Maybe we could change get_user return a tagged result: __from_user int.
And have above warn because __from_user can not be assigned to plain
int.
Then rework the code along the following lines:
int data[256];
int force_range(__unsafe u32 value, unsigned idx)
{
return ((__force int)value) % idx;
}
int foo(u32 __user *ptr)
{
__unsafe u32 i;
int ichecked;
if (get_user(i, ptr))
return -EFAULT;
ichecked = force_range(i, sizeof data);
data[ichecked] = 0;
^^^ ok now
}
--
MST
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-19 15:32 Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-19 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-19 18:52 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-19 20:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 15:53 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-20 17:04 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] [TECH TOPIC] Support (or move towards to) LLVM Jiri Kosina
2016-07-20 18:35 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-20 18:52 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-21 9:54 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 13:41 ` Shuah Khan
2016-07-21 14:02 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-21 16:21 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-23 3:28 ` Behan Webster
2016-07-21 18:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-21 20:47 ` Paul Turner
2016-07-26 11:22 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-19 21:08 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] More useful types in the linux kernel James Bottomley
2016-07-20 0:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 7:32 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-20 12:11 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28 3:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-19 21:26 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-20 2:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 18:49 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-30 20:56 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-30 22:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-21 23:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 6:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 6:14 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 13:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-22 14:40 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 19:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-26 11:48 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 12:53 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-26 13:59 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-26 13:53 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-27 12:40 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-27 13:25 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 17:21 ` Bird, Timothy
2016-08-01 22:17 ` Rob Herring
2016-08-12 1:29 ` Stephen Boyd
2016-08-11 15:44 ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12 0:38 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-12 20:56 ` Dan Carpenter
2016-08-12 3:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 4:01 ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-12 4:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 5:29 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-08-12 5:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:04 ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12 6:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-12 6:37 ` Julia Lawall
2016-08-12 5:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-08-04 7:15 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-04 11:19 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 7:03 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:10 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:13 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 10:22 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-07-22 10:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-22 11:05 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 17:18 ` Julia Lawall
2016-07-22 18:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-22 19:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-28 3:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-28 7:12 ` David Howells
2016-08-02 10:48 ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04 11:31 ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-04 12:07 ` Jani Nikula
2016-07-22 11:19 ` David Howells
2016-07-22 12:44 ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-22 13:26 ` David Howells
2016-08-12 4:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <871t1ulfvz.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-12 5:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-08-12 6:23 ` NeilBrown
[not found] ` <87y442jytb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
2016-08-15 23:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-08-12 6:23 ` NeilBrown
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