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On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:01:26 +0100
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:

> I've had some bad experiences with some similar reporting requirements
> in the past - if people aren't actively engaged and supportive they end
> up working around rather than with the process which can make it harder
> to use the information later on.  Perhaps I'm overreacting to those but
> I'd much rather see this promoted as good practice than a stick to beat
> people with.

Note, all this should probably be treated as guidelines or "best
practices" and not "hard requirement"s.

Perhaps we should document what people should strive to achieve, and
state if you really don't have the time, then one may do without. But
the more one has a clear change log and information showing where a bug
happened, makes maintenance of the code in the future a little bit
easier.

-- Steve