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From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	"vegard.nossum@gmail.com" <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>,
	"rafael.j.wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Valentin Rothberg <valentinrothberg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Addressing complex dependencies and semantics (v2)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 16:17:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160803141705.GD23113@piout.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2023901.fskbspMbmh@avalon>

Hi,

On 28/07/2016 at 19:00:36 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote :
> > So I'm complete outsider to media drivers so maybe my question is stupid
> > but I cannot resist: So how is the device bringup supposed to work for
> > devices where you have these cycles in the dependency graph? Do you just
> > bring up the controller and then the sensor and it works because the
> > controller doesn't need the clock from the sensor for startup?
> 
> That's pretty much the idea, yes. We first probe the controller, and register 
> a notifier to react to sensors being probed. The controller registers at probe 
> time the clocks it provides, so the sensor can get hold of them when it gets 
> probed. The controller is then notified that the sensor is available and 
> proceeds normally.
> 
> We also have a suspend/resume ordering issue, where we have to stop the 
> controller first (the hardware doesn't like when it loses the incoming video 
> stream while running), but we can't stop the clock just yet before the sensor 
> driver has a chance to suspend the sensor. We thus use the PM prepare and 
> complete callbacks to stop/restart the controller, and the PM suspend and 
> resume callbacks to stop/restart the clock. This is a hack that assumes that 
> the sensor gets probed after the controller (which is guaranteed by the fact 
> that the sensor needs a clock provided by the controller and thus probe will 
> be deferred if the controller hasn't been probed yet) and that the sensor 
> driver will use the PM suspend/resume callbacks, not the prepare/complete 
> callbacks. Ugly, but for now it works.
> 
> In the case of the Atmel device I mentioned we just don't reset the hardware 
> at probe time. We can still access the hardware registers we need without 
> getting a pixel clock, so it's not such a big deal. It would have been worse 
> if the hardware designers had decided to clock all registers with the pixel 
> clock.
> 

Well, I'm starting to be more and more interested in that thread as I'm
currently working on getting the Atmel "Backup mode" (CPU/SoC off and
DDR in self refresh) working and this is a device (re)initialization
hell.

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-03 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-27 16:50 Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-27 17:26 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-27 17:58   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-27 18:03     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-27 19:20       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-28  0:54         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-28 10:41           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 10:54             ` Hans Verkuil
2016-07-28 11:03               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 11:46                 ` Jan Kara
2016-07-28 15:16                   ` Mark Brown
2016-07-28 16:00                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-02  8:32                     ` Jan Kara
2016-08-03 14:17                     ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2016-07-30  1:59                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-01 13:12                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 20:12                 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-07-28 20:38                   ` Mark Brown
2016-08-01 13:15                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 14:36               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-29  7:33             ` Hans Verkuil
2016-08-01 13:03               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 13:17                 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-08-04  8:22             ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04  9:50               ` Greg KH
2016-08-04 10:20                 ` Mark Brown
2016-08-04 10:27                   ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-05  2:59                   ` Rob Herring
2016-08-05  9:01                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-05 10:54                       ` Greg KH
2016-08-05 11:31                         ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-08-05 11:58                           ` Mark Brown
2016-08-05 13:43                           ` Greg KH
2016-08-05 19:27                         ` Rob Herring
2016-08-09  8:08                 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-09  8:17                   ` Greg KH
2016-08-09 12:04                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-04 12:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-08-04 15:53         ` Mark Brown
2016-07-28 21:49     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-07-29  3:50       ` Greg KH
2016-07-29  7:45       ` Hans Verkuil
2016-07-29  7:55         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-01 13:06           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-29 11:13         ` Mark Brown
2016-08-01 13:09           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 13:14             ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-01 13:19               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 13:21             ` Hans Verkuil
2016-08-01 13:26               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 13:35                 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-08-01 13:38                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 13:51                     ` Hans Verkuil
2016-08-01 17:15                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 13:33               ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-01 13:55                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-08-01 14:41                   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-01 14:44                   ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-08-01 14:54                     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-01 15:20                       ` Mark Brown
2016-08-01 15:34                       ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-08-01 15:43                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-01 16:18                           ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-08-01 17:06                             ` Mark Brown
2016-08-01 18:21                               ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-02 11:45                                 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-08-01 18:33                               ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-08-01 18:48                                 ` Mark Brown
2016-08-01 19:42                                   ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-08-01 20:05                                     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-02  8:57                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-01 17:40                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-02  7:38                     ` Greg KH
2016-08-01 19:03           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-02  0:01             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-02  0:56               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-02  1:03                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-02  8:30                   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-02  9:41                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-08-02  9:48                   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-02 11:50                     ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-09  9:57             ` Jörg Rödel
2016-08-09 16:08               ` James Bottomley
2016-08-09 16:11                 ` James Bottomley
2016-08-09 16:51                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-09 17:05                     ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-09 17:12                     ` James Bottomley
2016-08-09 16:53                   ` Jörg Rödel
2016-08-09 18:06               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-10 15:21                 ` Jörg Rödel
2016-08-10 16:42                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-10 21:37                     ` Jörg Rödel
2016-08-12  7:33               ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-27 18:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-28 10:43 ` Marc Zyngier
2016-07-28 10:51 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 23:43   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 12:44     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 11:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-07-28 11:24   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 12:25     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-07-28 16:04       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-29  0:00         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 12:50           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 20:32             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-29 13:57 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-09-07 16:40   ` Kevin Hilman
2016-08-01 14:03 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-11-03 18:43   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-04  6:53     ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-08 21:03 ` Frank Rowand

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