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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TOPIC] kernel hardening / self-protection / whatever
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:54:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160721155407.GF20559@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lh18i1d6.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:30:13AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Many kernel hardening features are perceived as having downsides affect
> performance or code maintainability.  Which quite frankly is a security
> issue of another flavor because if something does not work well, and or
> is not maintainable after a while it won't get used. 

In some cases (e.g. copy_{to,from}_user checks), I think that's
indicative of the structure of the existing code, and there are existing
opportunities for cleanup/simplification and/or unification regardless
of particular hardening features.

To some extent, it would be better if we could do more ground work
making those areas more maintainable, rather than focussing solely on
getting particular features in ASAP.

Thanks,
Mark.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-21 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-11  4:28 Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-11 13:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-11 16:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-11 17:57   ` Kees Cook
2016-07-12 16:40     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:54   ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-07-11 17:33 ` Jann Horn
2016-07-19 15:40   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20  2:14     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-20  2:14       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20  6:42         ` Herbert Xu
2016-07-21 17:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-11 17:53 ` Kees Cook
2016-07-11 18:07   ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-11 18:59     ` Kees Cook
2016-07-31  9:55   ` Paul Burton
2016-07-31 22:04     ` Kees Cook
2016-08-01 10:47       ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-01 19:42         ` Kees Cook
2016-08-03 22:53       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-04  5:32         ` Kees Cook
2016-08-04  5:45           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-04  5:54             ` Kees Cook
2016-08-05  0:12               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-08 23:54                 ` Kees Cook
2016-09-09  0:42                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-04 14:17           ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-04 22:29             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-01  9:34     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [nominations] " Mark Rutland

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