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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] kernel unit testing
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:29:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160715042938.GA5527@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <578850EB.3090109@roeck-us.net>

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 07:56:43PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> Overall, I can not imagine that it is even possible to use quilt trees as basis
> for development in a company with if active kernel development, even more so
> if a large number of engineers and/or a number of branches are involved.
> Sure, the QCOM example may be extreme, but do you really think that writing
> those 2.5M LOC would have been possible if QCOM had used Quilt trees instead
> of git ? Using Quilt would for sure have prevented them from writing those
> 2.5M LOC, but then there would be nothing. That doesn't sound like a feasible
> alternative either.

It is possible, look at the Red Hat and SuSE kernel development teams.
Yes, in the end, most of the patches are backports from upstream, but
during new releases they use quilt for all of their work, adding and
removing and updating patches all the time.

There are the usual merge issues with doing that, but for an SoC, I
don't think that would be all that hard given that almost all patches
are driver/subsystem-specific and don't touch other places.

It does take a better calibre of developer to do this type of thing,
that might be a harder thing to deal with at some SoC vendors :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-15  4:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 244+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-08 22:35 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] stable workflow Jiri Kosina
2016-07-08 23:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-08 23:38   ` Luck, Tony
2016-07-09  8:34     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-09  8:58       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-09  9:29       ` Johannes Berg
2016-07-09 15:19         ` Jason Cooper
2016-07-09 16:04           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-09 19:15         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-08-01  9:32           ` Johannes Berg
2016-08-01 11:10             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-09 18:39       ` Andrew Lunn
2016-07-10  1:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-08 23:52   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-09  0:06     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-09  8:37       ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-09  9:12         ` Mark Brown
2016-07-09  0:10   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-09  0:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-09  0:43       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-09  1:53         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-09 10:05         ` James Bottomley
2016-07-09 15:49           ` Trond Myklebust
2016-07-09 22:41             ` Dan Williams
2016-07-10  1:34             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-10  1:43               ` Trond Myklebust
2016-07-10  1:56                 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-10  2:12                   ` Trond Myklebust
2016-07-10  2:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-10  3:00                     ` James Bottomley
2016-07-10  3:07                       ` Trond Myklebust
2016-07-26 13:35                       ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 13:44                         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-26 14:33                           ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-26 15:52                             ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-28 21:02                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-29  0:10                               ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-29  8:59                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-29 14:28                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-01 13:53                                     ` Shuah Khan
2016-08-03  4:47                                       ` Bird, Timothy
2016-07-29 15:12                                   ` Mark Brown
2016-07-29 15:20                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-29 15:50                                       ` Mark Brown
2016-07-29 16:06                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-29 16:48                                           ` Mark Brown
2016-07-29 17:02                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-29 21:07                                               ` Alexandre Belloni
2016-07-29 21:40                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-01 13:41                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-30 16:19                                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 13:35                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-01 14:24                                       ` Mark Brown
2016-08-02 14:12                       ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-02 15:34                         ` Mark Brown
2016-08-02 23:17                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-03  9:36                             ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-03 11:09                               ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 13:05                                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-03 13:26                                   ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 13:48                                     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-03 13:57                                       ` James Bottomley
2016-08-03 13:59                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-03 14:04                                           ` James Bottomley
2016-08-03 14:10                                             ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-04  1:23                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04  8:20                                               ` Greg KH
2016-08-04 13:33                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04 15:32                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-04 15:40                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04 15:47                                                     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-04 16:18                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2016-08-04 16:26                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04 15:44                                                   ` Mark Brown
2016-08-04 15:56                                                     ` James Bottomley
2016-08-04 17:01                                                       ` Mark Brown
2016-08-04 17:11                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04 17:53                                                           ` Mark Brown
2016-08-05  8:16                                                           ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-04 16:14                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04 17:51                                                       ` Mark Brown
2016-08-04 18:16                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-08-04 18:44                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04 18:48                                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-08-04 19:06                                                             ` Mark Brown
2016-08-04 18:52                                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-04 19:30                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03 14:45                                         ` Mark Brown
2016-08-04 13:48                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-08-03 14:19                                       ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 14:45                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-03 15:48                                           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-03 16:12                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-03 16:44                                               ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-03 17:20                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-03 18:21                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-03 18:59                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-03 21:25                                                       ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-03 21:31                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-03 21:36                                                           ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-04  3:06                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03 22:25                                                           ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-04 14:02                                                         ` Jan Kara
2016-08-03 18:57                                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-03 22:16                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-04  3:14                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04  3:32                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-04  4:05                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-04  8:27                                               ` Greg KH
2016-08-04  8:21                                             ` Greg KH
2016-08-05  4:46                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-08-03 14:12                                     ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-03 14:33                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-03 13:20                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-03 13:21                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-04  1:05                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-03 13:39                                   ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 14:10                                     ` Chris Mason
2016-08-04  0:37                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-08-03 15:47                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-08-04  8:25                                   ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 11:12                               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-10  2:27                   ` Dan Williams
2016-07-10  6:10                     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-11  4:03                     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] kernel unit testing Trond Myklebust
2016-07-11  4:22                       ` James Bottomley
2016-07-11  4:30                         ` Trond Myklebust
2016-07-11  5:23                       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-11  8:56                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-11 16:20                         ` Mark Brown
2016-07-11 19:58                       ` Dan Williams
2016-07-12  9:35                         ` Jan Kara
2016-07-13  4:56                           ` Dan Williams
2016-07-13  9:04                             ` Jan Kara
2016-07-11 20:24                       ` Kevin Hilman
2016-07-11 23:03                         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-18  7:44                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-18  8:44                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-07-28 21:09                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-28 21:33                           ` Bird, Timothy
2016-08-02 18:42                           ` Kevin Hilman
2016-08-02 19:44                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-08-02 20:33                               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-13  4:48                       ` Alex Shi
2016-07-13  9:07                         ` Greg KH
2016-07-13 12:37                           ` Alex Shi
2016-07-13 19:59                             ` Olof Johansson
2016-07-13 22:23                               ` Alex Shi
2016-07-14  1:19                             ` Greg KH
2016-07-14  9:48                               ` Alex Shi
2016-07-14  9:54                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-14 14:13                                   ` Alex Shi
2016-07-13 14:34                           ` Mark Brown
2016-07-14  3:17                             ` Greg KH
2016-07-14 10:06                               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-15  0:22                                 ` Greg KH
2016-07-15  0:51                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-15  1:41                                     ` Greg KH
2016-07-15  2:56                                       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-15  4:29                                         ` Greg KH [this message]
2016-07-15  5:52                                           ` NeilBrown
2016-07-15  6:14                                             ` Greg KH
2016-07-15  7:02                                               ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-15 11:42                                                 ` Greg KH
2016-07-15 11:47                                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-15 12:17                                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-07-15  6:19                                             ` Rik van Riel
2016-07-15 12:17                                               ` Mark Brown
2016-07-26 13:45                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-15  6:32                                             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-15  7:01                                               ` NeilBrown
2016-07-15  7:28                                                 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-15  7:36                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-15  9:29                                                   ` NeilBrown
2016-07-15 16:08                                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-15 11:05                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-07-15 12:35                                                 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-15 12:44                                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-07-15 11:24                                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-07-28 22:07                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-07-21  7:13                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-07-21  7:44                                             ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-15 11:10                                     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-15 11:40                                       ` Greg KH
2016-07-15 12:38                                         ` Mark Brown
2016-07-10  2:07                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] stable workflow Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-10  6:19               ` Olof Johansson
2016-07-10 14:42                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-11  1:18                   ` Olof Johansson
2016-07-10  7:29           ` Takashi Iwai
2016-07-10 10:20             ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-10 13:33               ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-15  9:27                 ` Zefan Li
2016-07-15 13:52                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-26 13:08           ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-10  7:37     ` Takashi Iwai
2016-07-09  0:06 ` Jason Cooper
2016-07-09  0:42   ` James Bottomley
2016-07-09  8:43     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-09  9:36       ` Mark Brown
2016-07-09 15:13         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-09 19:40           ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-07-11  8:14             ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-09 21:21           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-11 15:13             ` Mark Brown
2016-07-11 17:03               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-11 17:07                 ` Justin Forbes
2016-07-11 17:11                 ` Mark Brown
2016-07-11 17:13                   ` Olof Johansson
2016-07-11 17:17                     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-11 17:24                       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-11 17:44                         ` Mark Brown
2016-07-13  1:08                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-07-11 17:15                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-11 17:20                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-11 17:26                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-11 17:27                     ` Olof Johansson
2016-07-11 23:13                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-11 17:17                 ` Josh Boyer
2016-07-11 22:42                 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-20 17:50                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-07-11  8:18           ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-11 23:32             ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-11 14:22           ` Mark Brown
2016-07-10 16:22         ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-10 17:01           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-10 18:28             ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-10 22:38               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-11  8:47                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-27  3:19                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-10 22:39               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-11  1:12                 ` Olof Johansson
2016-07-11  5:00             ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-11  5:13               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-11 10:57                 ` Luis de Bethencourt
2016-07-11 14:18                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-11 17:34                   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-27  3:12                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-27  4:36                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-09 14:57     ` Jason Cooper
2016-07-09 22:51       ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-07-10  7:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2016-07-11  7:44 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-08-02 13:49 ` Jani Nikula

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