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From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@sonymobile.com>
Cc: "\"Andersson, Björn\"" <Bjorn.Andersson@sonymobile.com>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	"riverful.kim@samsung.com" <riverful.kim@samsung.com>,
	"kyungmin.park@samsung.com" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 11:29:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150803152902.GA3598@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55BBAF9B.7010007@sonymobile.com>

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:25:47AM -0700, Tim Bird wrote:

<snip>

> I'm doing some research now on the usefulness of backporting the current
> brcm80211 code to 3.18, which many of the next round of Android phones
> will be using.  This at least exposes the stack to mobile device vendors
> and device owners, who (with some luck) can test it in production settings
> and find deficiencies.
> 
> If we do nothing, then we'll have another full generation of phones
> which focus exclusively on out-of-tree wireless driver code.  This will
> end up delaying the adoption of the mainline driver (in this product
> area) by another few years, IMHO.
> 
> Feedback on the and sanity of this approach are welcome. :-)  If anyone knows
> things about the broadcom driver or the wireless stack that would make this
> backport particularly costly, please let me know.

It probably goes without saying, but you should make sure that
brcm80211 actually supports the chips in use.  Broadcom has not done a
very good job at keeping brcm80211 up-to-date with the hardware that
they actually release for laptops.  Installing out-of-tree Broadcom
wireless drivers on laptops still seems to be a common requirement. :-(

John
-- 
John W. Linville		Someday the world will need a hero, and you
linville@tuxdriver.com			might be all we have.  Be ready.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-03 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-23 10:57 Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 11:21 ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-23 12:14   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 12:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 15:40       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-28 22:09         ` Tim Bird
2015-07-28 23:07           ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-07-31 16:18             ` Rob Herring
2015-07-31 16:56               ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-08-11  9:34                 ` Johannes Berg
2015-07-31 17:25               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-03 15:29                 ` John W. Linville [this message]
2015-08-03  7:42               ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-03 21:34                 ` Rob Herring
2015-08-03 22:36                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05  8:40                     ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  8:46                       ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  9:11                         ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 11:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  9:09                       ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 17:19                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05 16:02                     ` Rob Herring
2015-08-05 17:00                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-07 12:40                         ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-29  0:45           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-29  6:12             ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-29  7:40             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-25 18:59               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-26  1:22                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  4:25                   ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26  4:52                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  5:30                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-26  5:33                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  6:15                           ` Josh Triplett
2015-08-26  7:23                             ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-26  8:05                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-28  8:20                                 ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-08-26 11:33                   ` Mark Brown
2015-08-26 12:56                   ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 13:35                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-26 13:58                     ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 14:51                       ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 17:13                         ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 20:09                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-28  7:44                             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  8:42                               ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-29 15:47                                 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-07-29  8:18             ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-29  0:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29  6:43           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-29 17:42             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-29  7:14           ` Bintian
2015-07-29 18:07             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-31  1:50               ` Bintian
2015-07-23 20:29       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 20:34         ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  4:34           ` NeilBrown
2015-07-24  6:00             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-24 22:26               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-28 22:03                 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-29  0:51                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:59                       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-30  0:57                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-31 17:55                           ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01  0:08                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-23 21:00         ` josh
2015-07-23 21:29           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-29 13:32         ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 12:22           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-31 17:52             ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 22:03               ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-01 10:55                 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01 19:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-04 17:17                     ` Mark Brown
2015-08-03  5:33                 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-23 13:23     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-23 21:56       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  1:37         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-24  4:40       ` Kyungmin Park
2015-07-23 14:48 ` Shuah Khan
2015-07-23 15:08 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-08-04 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  7:05   ` Bintian

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