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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	Shuah Khan <shuah.kh@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Fix devm_kzalloc, its users, or both
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 11:18:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150801151839.GA9480@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8475257.M7ZLAf3KQe@avalon>

Hello,

On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 02:01:02PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Would it be possible to call the devres cleanup at this point, rather than
> > on the remove function?
> 
> As devres cleanup will also take care of interrupts and ioremap'ed regions I 
> don't think that would be an option. Otherwise we would have trouble when the 
> device is reprobed as resources would be busy.
> 
> We could possibly create an API to allow drivers to keep references to some 
> devres-allocate objects, but that's arguably a hack.

Another factor to consider is that even if the driver separately
allocates e.g. memory which may be accessed after removal, it's mighty
difficult to verify that file operations which take place post removal
don't have any dependency on things which are released on removal.  I
mean, we've always had a lot of drivers which are fairly confused
about lifetime rules.

devm allocated memory *might* make certain failures more obvious as
the memory itself gets freed right away but I'd be very surprised if
there aren't already a bunch of drivers which fail to fully isolate
post-removal file operations regardless of devm.

So, all in all, if we actually want to fix this issue, well at least
most of it, I think the only viable way would be implementing revoke
semantics and drain and sever all operations on removal.  Maybe it'll
end up another devm interface.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-01 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-31 15:14 Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-31 15:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 16:34 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 16:51   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 16:57     ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 17:03       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 16:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-31 17:02     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:05       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:13         ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:33           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:36             ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 18:28               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 18:40                 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 19:41                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-01 10:57                     ` Mark Brown
2015-08-02 14:05                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 14:21                       ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:04     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 11:21       ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 12:55         ` Dan Carpenter
2015-08-04 14:01           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-04 17:55           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 18:03             ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 18:07               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 19:49             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 17:04 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 17:27   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-01 10:55     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 16:30       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 23:33         ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:47   ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:55     ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:01       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 15:18         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-08-02  0:48           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-02 14:30             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 16:04               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 10:40               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:18                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-04 11:56                   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:59                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 14:48                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 22:44                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-05  9:41                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 10:49               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-10  7:58 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-10 10:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-11 11:35     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-11 15:19       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-21  2:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 15:07   ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-21 16:14     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 16:58       ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:30         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 17:41           ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:52             ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 18:05               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 18:18                 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-12 18:36                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-12 18:44                     ` Mark Brown
2015-10-14 15:58                       ` Theodore Ts'o

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