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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	riverful.kim@samsung.com, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <Bjorn.Andersson@sonymobile.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 11:55:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150801105522.GP20873@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150731220306.GA7867@amd>

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On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 12:03:06AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Fri 2015-07-31 18:52:15, Mark Brown wrote:

> > Given that the baseband is a key part of the data path it's not like
> > you're gaining anything there as far as I can see?   I suppose you could
> > argue that the AP is actually an additional attack surface here.

> Actually yes, I believe I'm gaining a lot.

> If baseband is directly connected to the microphone, it can eavesdrop
> on me while the phone appears to be idle.

Oh, right.  That's not an issue since there's generally routing control
in the rest of the system (within the CODEC and sometimes elsewhere
also) so you can isolate the baseband from the local audio sources and
only connect it in call.  When not in use the CODEC will be powered down
and even when in use by the AP you'd usually not route to the baseband.

The baseband normally doesn't have sufficient physical access to
relevant control interfaces to get any input.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-01 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-23 10:57 Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 11:21 ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-23 12:14   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 12:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 15:40       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-28 22:09         ` Tim Bird
2015-07-28 23:07           ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-07-31 16:18             ` Rob Herring
2015-07-31 16:56               ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-08-11  9:34                 ` Johannes Berg
2015-07-31 17:25               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-03 15:29                 ` John W. Linville
2015-08-03  7:42               ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-03 21:34                 ` Rob Herring
2015-08-03 22:36                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05  8:40                     ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  8:46                       ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  9:11                         ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 11:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  9:09                       ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 17:19                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05 16:02                     ` Rob Herring
2015-08-05 17:00                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-07 12:40                         ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-29  0:45           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-29  6:12             ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-29  7:40             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-25 18:59               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-26  1:22                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  4:25                   ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26  4:52                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  5:30                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-26  5:33                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  6:15                           ` Josh Triplett
2015-08-26  7:23                             ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-26  8:05                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-28  8:20                                 ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-08-26 11:33                   ` Mark Brown
2015-08-26 12:56                   ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 13:35                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-26 13:58                     ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 14:51                       ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 17:13                         ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 20:09                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-28  7:44                             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  8:42                               ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-29 15:47                                 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-07-29  8:18             ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-29  0:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29  6:43           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-29 17:42             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-29  7:14           ` Bintian
2015-07-29 18:07             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-31  1:50               ` Bintian
2015-07-23 20:29       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 20:34         ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  4:34           ` NeilBrown
2015-07-24  6:00             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-24 22:26               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-28 22:03                 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-29  0:51                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:59                       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-30  0:57                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-31 17:55                           ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01  0:08                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-23 21:00         ` josh
2015-07-23 21:29           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-29 13:32         ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 12:22           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-31 17:52             ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 22:03               ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-01 10:55                 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2015-08-01 19:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-04 17:17                     ` Mark Brown
2015-08-03  5:33                 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-23 13:23     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-23 21:56       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  1:37         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-24  4:40       ` Kyungmin Park
2015-07-23 14:48 ` Shuah Khan
2015-07-23 15:08 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-08-04 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  7:05   ` Bintian

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