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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	kyungmin.park@samsung.com, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <Bjorn.Andersson@sonymobile.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:55:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150731175547.GK20873@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2904825.6WZJacWC6y@vostro.rjw.lan>

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 02:57:17AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> Essentially, what happens is that runtime PM allows us to reach the state
> in which the system draws as little power as in suspend-to-idle, but it
> simply doesn't allow the system to stay in that state long enough in one
> go due to timer interrupts (and possibly other types of interrupt noice
> that is suppressed by suspending all devices).

> Since energy is the power drawn in a given state times the time spent in that
> state (on the average), that's why the system in suspend-to-idle uses less
> energy than it would with runtime idle during the same period (modulo the
> energy spent on suspending and resuming devices etc, of course).

We could in theory work to reduce the number of these additional timer
and other interrupts further - there was a lot of focus on this in the
past (partly for desktop use cases where suspend isn't such a quick out)
though with the advent of Android and the wide deployment of suspend to
idle that resulted people stopped bothering on the embedded side since
suspend to idle is both simple and effective.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-23 10:57 Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 11:21 ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-23 12:14   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 12:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 15:40       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-28 22:09         ` Tim Bird
2015-07-28 23:07           ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-07-31 16:18             ` Rob Herring
2015-07-31 16:56               ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-08-11  9:34                 ` Johannes Berg
2015-07-31 17:25               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-03 15:29                 ` John W. Linville
2015-08-03  7:42               ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-03 21:34                 ` Rob Herring
2015-08-03 22:36                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05  8:40                     ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  8:46                       ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05  9:11                         ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 11:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  9:09                       ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 17:19                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05 16:02                     ` Rob Herring
2015-08-05 17:00                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-07 12:40                         ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-29  0:45           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-29  6:12             ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-29  7:40             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-25 18:59               ` Tim Bird
2015-08-26  1:22                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  4:25                   ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26  4:52                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  5:30                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-26  5:33                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26  6:15                           ` Josh Triplett
2015-08-26  7:23                             ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-26  8:05                               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-28  8:20                                 ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-08-26 11:33                   ` Mark Brown
2015-08-26 12:56                   ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 13:35                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-26 13:58                     ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 14:51                       ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 17:13                         ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 20:09                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-28  7:44                             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  8:42                               ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-29 15:47                                 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-07-29  8:18             ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-29  0:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29  6:43           ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-29 17:42             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-29  7:14           ` Bintian
2015-07-29 18:07             ` Tim Bird
2015-07-31  1:50               ` Bintian
2015-07-23 20:29       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 20:34         ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  4:34           ` NeilBrown
2015-07-24  6:00             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-24 22:26               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-28 22:03                 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-29  0:51                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:59                       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-30  0:57                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-31 17:55                           ` Mark Brown [this message]
2015-08-01  0:08                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-23 21:00         ` josh
2015-07-23 21:29           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-29 13:32         ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 12:22           ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-31 17:52             ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 22:03               ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-01 10:55                 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01 19:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-04 17:17                     ` Mark Brown
2015-08-03  5:33                 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-23 13:23     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-23 21:56       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24  1:37         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-24  4:40       ` Kyungmin Park
2015-07-23 14:48 ` Shuah Khan
2015-07-23 15:08 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-08-04 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05  7:05   ` Bintian

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