From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah.kh@samsung.com>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Fix devm_kzalloc, its users, or both
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:03:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150731170301.GE5613@dtor-ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507311855250.2499@hadrien>
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:57:17PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:34:21PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > It recently came to my attention that the way devm_kzalloc() is used by most
> > > > drivers is broken. I've raised the topic on LKML (see
> > > > http://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/14/741) in the hope that my findings were simply
> > > > wrong, but it turned out I was unfortunately right. As the topic spans lots of
> > > > subsystems I believe it would be a good technical topic for the Kernel Summit.
> > > >
> > > > The issue occurs when drivers use devm_kzalloc() to allocate data structures
> > > > that can be accessed through file operations on a device node. The following
> > > > sequence of events will then lead to a crash.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Get a device bound to its driver
> > > > 2. Open the corresponding device node in userspace and keep it open
> > > > 3. Unbind the device from its driver through sysfs using for instance
> > > >
> > > > echo <device-name> > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/<driver-name>/unbind
> > > >
> > > > (or for hotpluggable devices just unplug the device)
> > > >
> > > > 4. Close the device node
> > > > 5. Enjoy the fireworks
> > > >
> > > > While having a device node open prevents modules from being unloaded, it
> > > > doesn't prevent devices from being unbound from drivers. If the driver uses
> > > > devm_* helpers to allocate memory the memory will be freed when the device is
> > > > unbound from the driver, but that memory will still be used by any operation
> > > > touching an open device node.
> > >
> > > How is this different from the free happening explicitly in the remove
> > > function?
> >
> > It is not, but often devm* is "sold" as the greatest thing since sliced
> > bread and people use it by default everywhere without a second thought.
> > I see quite a few patches from newer contributors making conversion of
> > drivers to devm and quite a few of them are wrong. I also see quite
> > often suggestions to submitters encouraging using devm* which would be
> > also wrong in those particular scenarios.
>
> I know about the problem with the interaction with interrupts, but this
> seems to be something else? Is there a concrete example? Or are all
I do not have concrete example, but let's say you have driver data that
you allocate with devm and use dev_set_drvdata() to attach to the
device. Then you have character device, and in open you attach your
device to the file structure and in read you do:
dev = file->private_data;
drvdata = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
Now that drvdata will not be there once device is unbound, but file may
still be active until userspace closes it.
> cases wrong, because freeing things in the remove function is wrong in the
> first place?
Yes... No... Maybe... ;)
Thanks.
--
Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-31 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-31 15:14 Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-31 15:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 16:34 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 16:51 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 16:57 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 17:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2015-07-31 16:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-31 17:02 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:13 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:36 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 18:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 18:40 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 19:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-01 10:57 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-02 14:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 14:21 ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:04 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 11:21 ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 12:55 ` Dan Carpenter
2015-08-04 14:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-04 17:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 18:03 ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 18:07 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 19:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 17:04 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 17:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-01 10:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 16:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 23:33 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:55 ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 15:18 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-02 0:48 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-02 14:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 16:04 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 10:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-04 11:56 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:59 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 14:48 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 22:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-05 9:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 10:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-10 7:58 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-10 10:23 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-11 11:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-11 15:19 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-21 2:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 15:07 ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-21 16:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 16:58 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 17:41 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:52 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 18:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 18:18 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-12 18:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-12 18:44 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-14 15:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
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