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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah.kh@samsung.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Fix devm_kzalloc, its users, or both
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:03:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150731170301.GE5613@dtor-ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507311855250.2499@hadrien>

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:57:17PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 06:34:21PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > It recently came to my attention that the way devm_kzalloc() is used by most
> > > > drivers is broken. I've raised the topic on LKML (see
> > > > http://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/14/741) in the hope that my findings were simply
> > > > wrong, but it turned out I was unfortunately right. As the topic spans lots of
> > > > subsystems I believe it would be a good technical topic for the Kernel Summit.
> > > >
> > > > The issue occurs when drivers use devm_kzalloc() to allocate data structures
> > > > that can be accessed through file operations on a device node. The following
> > > > sequence of events will then lead to a crash.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Get a device bound to its driver
> > > > 2. Open the corresponding device node in userspace and keep it open
> > > > 3. Unbind the device from its driver through sysfs using for instance
> > > >
> > > > echo <device-name> > /sys/bus/platform/drivers/<driver-name>/unbind
> > > >
> > > > (or for hotpluggable devices just unplug the device)
> > > >
> > > > 4. Close the device node
> > > > 5. Enjoy the fireworks
> > > >
> > > > While having a device node open prevents modules from being unloaded, it
> > > > doesn't prevent devices from being unbound from drivers. If the driver uses
> > > > devm_* helpers to allocate memory the memory will be freed when the device is
> > > > unbound from the driver, but that memory will still be used by any operation
> > > > touching an open device node.
> > >
> > > How is this different from the free happening explicitly in the remove
> > > function?
> >
> > It is not, but often devm* is "sold" as the greatest thing since sliced
> > bread and people use it by default everywhere without a second thought.
> > I see quite a few patches from newer contributors making conversion of
> > drivers to devm and quite a few of them are wrong. I also see quite
> > often suggestions to submitters encouraging using devm* which would be
> > also wrong in those particular scenarios.
> 
> I know about the problem with the interaction with interrupts, but this
> seems to be something else?  Is there a concrete example?  Or are all

I do not have concrete example, but let's say you have driver data that
you allocate with devm and use dev_set_drvdata() to attach to the
device. Then you have character device, and in open you attach your
device to the file structure and in read you do:

	dev = file->private_data;
	drvdata = dev_get_drvdata(dev);


Now that drvdata will not be there once device is unbound, but file may
still be active until userspace closes it.

> cases wrong, because freeing things in the remove function is wrong in the
> first place?

Yes... No... Maybe... ;)

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-31 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-31 15:14 Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-31 15:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 16:34 ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 16:51   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 16:57     ` Julia Lawall
2015-07-31 17:03       ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2015-07-31 16:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-31 17:02     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:05       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:13         ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 17:33           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 17:36             ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 18:28               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-07-31 18:40                 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-31 19:41                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-01 10:57                     ` Mark Brown
2015-08-02 14:05                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 14:21                       ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:04     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 11:21       ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 12:55         ` Dan Carpenter
2015-08-04 14:01           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-04 17:55           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 18:03             ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-04 18:07               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-04 19:49             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-07-31 17:04 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 17:27   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-01 10:55     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 16:30       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 23:33         ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:47   ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 10:55     ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-01 11:01       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-01 15:18         ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-02  0:48           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-02 14:30             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-02 16:04               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 10:40               ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:18                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-04 11:56                   ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 11:59                     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 14:48                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 22:44                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-05  9:41                       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-04 10:49               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-10  7:58 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-10 10:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-11 11:35     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-11 15:19       ` Daniel Vetter
2015-08-21  2:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 15:07   ` Julia Lawall
2015-08-21 16:14     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 16:58       ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:30         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 17:41           ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 17:52             ` Mark Brown
2015-08-21 18:05               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-21 18:18                 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-12 18:36                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-12 18:44                     ` Mark Brown
2015-10-14 15:58                       ` Theodore Ts'o

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