From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: mcgrof@gmail.com, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
jkkm@jkkm.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Firmware signing
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:35:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150729163549.GA10114@x> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1438182000.2204.35.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 08:00:00AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> You're not out of the woods with this, though: the licence of the
> firmware must permit arbitrary redistribution (and we've seen some that
> don't), so it still has to be released under a freely redistributable
> licence. And, obviously, there's a greyer area for Linux Specific
> firmware, but the above applies in the general case.
>
> Distributions, like Debian, which have a definition for what they
> consider to be "free software" may obviously conclude that binary blobs
> don't satisfy that definition and therefore must be confined to the
> non-free part of the distribution. We can certainly continue to ship
> firmware separately as a courtesy for Debian to prevent the hardship of
> having to banish the whole kernel to non-free
(Or filter out the blobs.)
For the record, this point (that firmware *itself* is not Free Software)
was the only one I meant when I gave "licensing" as a reason to not
compile in firmware. Feel free to continue the argument about the
legality of a bzImage containing firmware blobs if you like, but that's
not the point I was making.
- Josh triplett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-29 16:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-28 13:36 David Howells
2015-07-28 14:23 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 16:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-28 15:10 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 15:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 15:31 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 16:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:10 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 16:15 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 16:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:44 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 17:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:19 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 19:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:43 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 22:03 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-11 20:24 ` David Howells
2015-08-11 21:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-11 22:03 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-12 18:22 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 18:45 ` David Woodhouse
2015-08-12 19:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:15 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-12 19:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:43 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-12 19:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-13 7:03 ` Jan Kara
2015-08-13 14:01 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-12 22:46 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 22:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 22:39 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 22:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 22:45 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 22:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:18 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 16:42 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:09 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 17:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 2:00 ` James Morris
2015-07-28 16:58 ` Josh Boyer
2015-07-28 15:12 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 18:47 ` Peter Jones
2015-07-28 19:14 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 19:52 ` Peter Jones
2015-07-28 16:17 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 19:11 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 19:34 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-28 21:53 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 22:39 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 22:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 8:39 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 18:36 ` josh
2015-07-28 18:44 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 18:54 ` josh
2015-07-28 19:06 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-28 21:38 ` Greg KH
2015-07-28 23:59 ` josh
2015-07-29 0:17 ` Greg KH
2015-07-29 9:37 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 15:00 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-29 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 16:38 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-29 17:32 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 23:39 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 8:08 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-30 13:48 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 14:21 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-30 14:30 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 15:01 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-30 16:17 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 19:17 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-31 14:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-07-31 16:14 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-31 17:25 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-30 16:24 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-29 16:35 ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2015-07-29 8:29 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 11:57 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-29 12:02 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 12:24 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-28 19:23 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 19:19 ` David Howells
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