From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 617DA279 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7272138 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:59:26 -0700 From: josh@joshtriplett.org To: Greg KH Message-ID: <20150728235926.GB8671@cloud> References: <20436.1438090619@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <20150728183610.GB5307@cloud> <1438109061.5441.202.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20150728185428.GD5307@cloud> <20150728213805.GA8786@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150728213805.GA8786@kroah.com> Cc: James Bottomley , mcgrof@gmail.com, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, jkkm@jkkm.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Firmware signing List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 02:38:05PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:54:28AM -0700, josh@joshtriplett.org wrote: > > > So in that case, what's the advantage of separating the firmware from > > > the driver? If we can't update it without updating the driver, we could > > > just build it in and save a huge amount of hassle. > > > > Licensing, which is a large part of why we have request_firmware to > > begin with. Let's not make distribution kernel maintainers' lives more > > difficult than they already are. > > Not true at all, please talk with some lawyers about this. I didn't say anything about a license violation; I'm talking about firmware licenses that aren't FOSS, which means distributions like Debian "main" can't ship them. - Josh Triplett