From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97685408 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0094.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.94]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250FCB0 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by smtpgrave07.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9865D11ADF9 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:42:51 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Pavel Machek Message-ID: <20150723084251.54da2be0@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20150723121441.GB29747@amd> References: <20150723105726.GC30929@amd> <20150723121441.GB29747@amd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , riverful.kim@samsung.com, kyungmin.park@samsung.com, John Stultz , Bjorn Andersson Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:14:41 +0200 Pavel Machek wrote: > On Thu 2015-07-23 13:21:19, Linus Walleij wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > > Significant percentage of phones run Linux kernel today, but geting > > > mainline kernel to work on a phone is very hard to do. (So hard, that > > > newest device that is close to working on recent mainline was made in > > > 2009.) There are multiple obstacles, including huge patches from > > > silicon vendors, missing GNU/Linux userspace support that makes kernel > > > testing hard, interfaces unsuitable for phones and power management > > > problems. > > Yes. Plus, there seems to be group at Samsung. Trats is a cellphone iirc. Seems like a reasonable topic, especially since KS is being held in South Korea this year. Although is this something to be a core topic or a tech topic? Does this affect all subsystems, or just a set of drivers? Note, a core topic wont get as much time for discussion as a tech topic would. Also, what is expected to be solved at KS? -- Steve