From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D366B282 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F129B0 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 15:40:01 -0700 From: Josh Triplett To: Jiri Kosina Message-ID: <20150719224000.GA9026@x> References: <1437063875.18768.59.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20150717101151.5d5bc86d@lwn.net> <20150717133712.42c82add@gandalf.local.home> <20150717190223.GB1499@cloud> <20150717154326.6f129bc4@gandalf.local.home> <20150717202412.GA1856@cloud> <20150717163903.67747d86@gandalf.local.home> <20150717204856.GA2048@cloud> <20150717165501.62ed4e04@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: James Bottomley , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Dan Carpenter , Jason Cooper Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:19:56AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: > I.e. I might propose a a slightly controversial topic, going a bit the > other direction than the whole "motivating newcomers" discussion: how to > get rid of useless submissions that are slowing maintainers down? > > Should we stop publishing all the statistics? I believe there is no > question that those are one of the primary drivers of useless submissions. > Once maintainers get DoSed by submissions of wrong and/or useless patches > that eat non-negligible amount of their time, we're in trouble. I don't think it's the statistics that are the primary driver of such contributions. Rather, I would suggest that it's so non-trivially difficult to follow the substantial volume of process needed to get something into the kernel that it's worth doing a trial run with a trivial change before trying to do something of substance. And fixes for certain classes of compiler or sparse warnings have value themselves. - Josh Triplett