From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65A29409 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0037.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.37]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF81184 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by smtpgrave08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A096B21250B for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:46:33 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Chris Mason Message-ID: <20150717154633.51804e6e@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20150717193013.GB8274@ret.masoncoding.com> References: <20150715212043.775be5d2@gandalf.local.home> <20150716132551.GH4039@sirena.org.uk> <20150716094720.2bf9f5ac@gandalf.local.home> <55A7C7FE.6000604@sonymobile.com> <20150716094125.16cdda73@lwn.net> <1437063875.18768.59.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20150717101151.5d5bc86d@lwn.net> <20150717133712.42c82add@gandalf.local.home> <22243b88-029f-4560-9e13-0b7001ed14ec@email.android.com> <20150717135313.6b917e1a@gandalf.local.home> <20150717193013.GB8274@ret.masoncoding.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: James Bottomley , Dan Carpenter , Jason Cooper , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:30:13 -0400 Chris Mason wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 01:53:13PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:43:12 +0300 > > James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > > > >--- Some Maintainer's prefer these styles --- > > > > > > > > These are some extra styles that maintainers prefer. Some are strict > > > > about these, others may not care. It doesn't hurt to add them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you do that, and I get 500 coccinelle generated patches for SCSI switching the includes to reverse Christmas tree one file at a time, I'm afraid I'll have to shoot you. > > > > I'll remember to wear my bullet proof vest coming to KS. > > > > Should stress that just some people prefer them. Heck, we can teach > > checkpatch.pl to look at what file is being modified and see what > > formats the maintainer of the file wants. :-) > > We're way off in the weeds here, and whenever this topic comes up, we > end up focusing on the minor annoyances that come from submitting > new code. Small variations in coding style, function naming and > general methods for working with a maintainer are sure to vary. > > Looking at Jon's statistics, we don't have a problem bringing > new people into the kernel. What can we do to help the new > people be more productive? My own feeling is feedback, > testing and documentation are more important than > 100% consistency between maintainers. > > I love Greg's swag idea, I'm sure > more than one LF member would > be willing to help sponsor > such a thing. > > -chris I wondered why I felt like I needed to look for my lawn mower. Yeah, we are bike shedding here. We need to figure out how to get people not afraid of submitting their first patch. I agree, that swag idea may be a good one. -- Steve