From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CB5EBC9 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 15:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.tuxdriver.com (charlotte.tuxdriver.com [70.61.120.58]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69CC7F1 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 15:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 11:43:25 -0400 From: "John W. Linville" To: Peter =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=FCwe?= Message-ID: <20150708154325.GC4265@tuxdriver.com> References: <201507080121.41463.PeterHuewe@gmx.de> <201507080905.00051.PeterHuewe@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201507080905.00051.PeterHuewe@gmx.de> Cc: Josh Boyer , Jason Cooper , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:04:58AM +0200, Peter Hüwe wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 8. Juli 2015, 04:03:04 schrieb Krzysztof Kozłowski: > > The only way to address this problem I can see is to recognize reviewers > > *much* more than we tend to do and not just "encourage" them, because > > that's way insufficient. > Yes again! > > What I definitely would also recommend is to organize some 'get togethers', > like a miniconf/minisummit at the next conference near you -- and where you > grab a beer _together_ with the reviewers / testers afterwards (and maybe the > maintainer can pay). > This also helps as forms of appreciation. I think that this was a major purpose served by Kernel Summit when it was founded. Over time KS grew along with the importance of the kernel until we started trying to cap KS attendance in the "about 100" range. Various mini-summits, workshops, and such have been instituted over time. At least part of the goal of providing such outlets is to include a broader swath of the kernel community. I believe that was part (perhaps most) of the motivation for the KS format change to include workshops over the past several years as well. Do you think that we need even more such events? Or just bigger ones? John -- John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready.