From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51ABFBC5 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A40C8121 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87B520BE0 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 20:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 17:16:50 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Peter Huewe Message-ID: <20150708001650.GA32155@kroah.com> References: <201507080121.41463.PeterHuewe@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201507080121.41463.PeterHuewe@gmx.de> Cc: Jason Cooper , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Recruitment (Reviewers, Testers, Maintainers, Hobbyists) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 01:21:40AM +0200, Peter Huewe wrote: > Hi, > > In order to continue our traditions I would like to propose again the topic of > recruitment, but this time not only limiting to the hobbyists market. > > We are definitely short on reviewers and thus have mostly overloaded > maintainers. > For testers it's usually even worse - how many patches are actually tested? > Judging from what I read on LKML not that many. > > So we should definitely discuss: > - how can we encourage hobbyists to become regular contributors > -- how to keep people interested, the drop-out rates are huge. > - encourage regular contributors to become reviewers and testers > - reviewers to become co-maintainers and finally maintainers (once the > original maintainer is used up or moves up/on) I like this proposal, thanks for making it. I'd be glad to help talk about this issue as I spend a lot of time working on dragging companies and developers into our community. We have a real lack of ways that people who are "reasonably skilled yet don't know what to work on" can do more to help contribute to the kernel. > -> Or how can we raise more funds to sponsor subsystem maintainer ship e.g. > via Linux Foundation. > (so that the maintainer atleast can buy some test-hardware) Buying test hardware is always a good thing, if people have a hard time with this, let me know, I've been able to get hardware for people in the past. > Nominations: > Jason Cooper (auto-nominated), last years 'speaker' > Greg KH please... ;-) Again, I'd be glad to help talk about this, thanks. greg k-h