ksummit.lists.linux.dev archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: josh@joshtriplett.org
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, david.vrabel@citrix.com,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Topic: Removal of code that is still in use by users but there is a better code.
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 13:02:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140611200205.GA16477@cloud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53987C3C.3080808@zytor.com>

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 08:56:44AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 06/10/2014 05:36 PM, josh@joshtriplett.org wrote:
> > 
> > I agree.  I think we've had some recent examples of how to do this
> > better, with remap_file_pages: old userspace has to *work* on new
> > kernels, but it doesn't necessarily need to run fast, or integrate with
> > any new features.  We should deprecate more kernel bits in
> > favor of minimal compatibility layers, some of which we can associate
> > with old userspace and drop for new userspace.
> > 
> 
> Uhm... that applies only to a fairly restricted aspect of deprecation.
> Much more is tied to specific hardware.

Agreed; hardware support does not have the same degree of compatibility
concerns that userspace interfaces do.

For instance, we could reasonably ask whether we can deprecate support
for ancient filesystems and push that code into FUSE in userspace, given
that most such filesystems only exist for forensics rather than
performance.  That would mitigate potential exploits in that code.

- Josh Triplett

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-11 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-10 20:12 Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-10 20:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11  0:36   ` josh
2014-06-11 15:56     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 20:02       ` josh [this message]
2014-06-11 17:54   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-11 19:43     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-11 21:53       ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-06-11 22:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-11 22:17           ` James Bottomley
2014-06-11 22:26             ` Roland Dreier
2014-06-11 22:36               ` James Bottomley
2014-06-12 11:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-12 13:27                 ` John W. Linville
2014-06-13  1:36                   ` James Bottomley
2014-06-19 13:01                 ` Linus Walleij
2014-06-11 23:22       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-12  2:48         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-12  7:16           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-06-12  0:07     ` H. Peter Anvin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20140611200205.GA16477@cloud \
    --to=josh@joshtriplett.org \
    --cc=boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com \
    --cc=david.vrabel@citrix.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=konrad.wilk@oracle.com \
    --cc=ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox