From: josh@joshtriplett.org
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, david.vrabel@citrix.com,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Topic: Removal of code that is still in use by users but there is a better code.
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 17:36:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140611003606.GA11052@cloud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53976840.40306@zytor.com>
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 01:19:12PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 06/10/2014 01:12 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I would want to propose a topic on removing code in Linux that
> > users are using - but they are doing it less and less and it
> > mostly is tied in with older hardware. Specifically how to do
> > this transition properly - and if we want to define some checklist
> > /policy to do it via.
> >
>
> I second this. Right now deprecation is entirely ad hoc... usually in
> the form "this hasn't compiled for X releases and noone noticed", which
> makes it hard to do *controlled* deprecation...
>
> I realize this is a third rail kind of topic, but it puts us in really
> hard spots as a project, sometime.
I agree. I think we've had some recent examples of how to do this
better, with remap_file_pages: old userspace has to *work* on new
kernels, but it doesn't necessarily need to run fast, or integrate with
any new features. We should deprecate more kernel bits in
favor of minimal compatibility layers, some of which we can associate
with old userspace and drop for new userspace.
- Josh Triplett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-11 0:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-10 20:12 Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-10 20:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 0:36 ` josh [this message]
2014-06-11 15:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 20:02 ` josh
2014-06-11 17:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-11 19:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-11 21:53 ` Stephen Rothwell
2014-06-11 22:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-11 22:17 ` James Bottomley
2014-06-11 22:26 ` Roland Dreier
2014-06-11 22:36 ` James Bottomley
2014-06-12 11:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-12 13:27 ` John W. Linville
2014-06-13 1:36 ` James Bottomley
2014-06-19 13:01 ` Linus Walleij
2014-06-11 23:22 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-12 2:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-12 7:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-06-12 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
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