From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED8F2FA for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 03:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 23:47:57 -0400 From: Jason Cooper To: Greg KH Message-ID: <20140516034757.GX27822@titan.lakedaemon.net> References: <20140511053037.GQ12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> <536FBA0E.5090301@gmail.com> <20140511190752.GC2527@linux.com> <20140511192630.GA14115@kroah.com> <20140512163838.GA12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> <20140512232302.GB17027@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140512232302.GB17027@kroah.com> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] hobbyist recruiting List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 01:23:02AM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:38:38PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote: > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: ... > > > If you track the number of unique people I take patches from, it's > > > going up, as is our number of unique contributors to the kernel overall. > > > It's been constantly increasing for the past 8 years, ever since I > > > started tracking the kernel development statistics. > > > > Cool, I didn't know you were actively tracking that. Is the data > > publicly hosted? Is that based on merged patches, or posted emails? > > It's based on merged patches, and can all be found at: > https://github.com/gregkh/kernel-history > along with the scripts that generate the numbers. Great! Thanks. > > My primary goal is to draw attention to the issue of aggressive mail > > filtering, new devs can pop up anywhere, and acknowledging them. By > > acknowledge, I mean answering the email, and treating them like everyone > > else. But we have to spot the emails first. > > Why would someone "new" be treated any differently? Everyone should be > treated with the same response and respect. I fully agree. I'm concerned that my 'recruiting' mantra may be mis-read as 'coddle the newbie and don't make any sudden movements'. Which I am emphatically _not_ saying. We are in complete agreement wrt treating everyone exactly the same. I'd like to quantify responses, or lack thereof, to first-timers on the primary mailinglists. From that data, determine *if* anything needs to be tweaked. For me personally, I'll explicitly add a mailfilter to catch first-time posters so that I can advise/direct them appropriately. If others are interested in assisting in that effort, I'll post any needed bits I've generated that are easy to integrate into the numerous email workflows we all have. thx, Jason.