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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] PM dependencies
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:40:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140514154002.GH12304@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7582809.t9iBxJcjvo@avalon>

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On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 05:26:20PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 May 2014 12:57:45 Mark Brown wrote:

> > Since the core device probe is deferred until everything it depends on
> > is ready it'll get pushed along the device list so that it appears after
> > everything it needs and hence is suspended first.

> That might solve (part of) the master vs. components dependencies (and even in 
> that case I'm pretty sure that there will be cases where the master needs to 
> be suspended first and cases where th slave(s) need to be suspended first), 
> but it doesn't handle inter-slaves dependencies.

> In the V4L subsystem we've implemented an explicit power management API that 
> "slaves" (called subdevices in V4L) must implement, to be called by the 
> master. That's of course more of a workaround than a perfect (or even good) 
> solution.

Right, that's what the function of the master device is in suspend for
this model - it quiesces the compound device as a whole so that any
interdependencies between the devices have been unwound (including
giving callbacks to the slaves where appropriate).  It gives us a place
to hang everything associated with having the devices so closely
interrelated.

Though as Rafael says with async suspend that gets broken.

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      reply	other threads:[~2014-05-14 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-12 17:43 Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-12 17:51 ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-18 15:42   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-05-12 18:09 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-12 20:14 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-12 20:27   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-12 20:31     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-12 21:16       ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-12 22:07         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13  7:43           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-13 10:31             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-13 14:26               ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-15 23:43                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-19  1:00                   ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-19  7:30                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 22:27           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 22:34             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 12:59               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-15 23:34               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-20 16:57                 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-20 18:51                   ` Mark Brown
2014-05-21  9:26                   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-05-21 11:16                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-22  0:19                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-22 10:14                     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-23 23:15                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-24 10:53                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-25 12:56                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-22 17:35                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23 23:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-23  0:18                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-23  0:39                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23  8:32                       ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-23 15:26                         ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-24  0:13                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-24  0:08                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-26 14:30                         ` Peter De Schrijver
2014-05-23  8:25                     ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-23  9:10                       ` Ulf Hansson
2014-05-24  0:00                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-15 22:45             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-14 21:08           ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-14 12:11       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 11:57         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-14 12:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 15:14             ` Mark Brown
2014-05-14 15:26           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-14 15:40             ` Mark Brown [this message]

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