From: josh@joshtriplett.org
To: Levente Kurusa <levex@linux.com>
Cc: PJ Waskiewicz <pjwaskiewicz@gmail.com>,
Dirk Hohndel <hohndel@infradead.org>,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Anton Arapov <arapov@gmail.com>,
Sarah A Sharp <sarah@minilop.net>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Fwd: [TECH TOPIC] QR encoded oops for the kernel
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 13:18:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140513201858.GB2911@cloud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140513155207.GA3538@linux.com>
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 05:52:07PM +0200, Levente Kurusa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:08:51AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 09:44:26AM +0300, Teodora Băluţă wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
> > > > I'd like the URL to be valid (meaning base64 the compressed data) so
> > > > that we can get the data to the kernel.org server as easily as possible.
> > > > Making the app a requirement for reporting is too onerous for
> > > > non-developers. I see no reason we can't link to (Open in/Install) it
> > > > on the webform though.
> > >
> > > So from what I can understand, the QR code has an URL that has the
> > > base64 of the compressed Oops message. Right? I see three problems
> > > with this approach:
> > >
> > > - base64 adds about 33% overhead (it's turning 3 octets into 4 encoded
> > > characters + padding). One issue with QR codes is that they have a
> > > limited amount of characters they can hold so that's why I do the
> > > compression in the first place
> >
> > Putting base64-encoded data in a URL in a binary-format QR code with 8
> > bits per character does indeed waste quite a bit of space. However, you
> > could put base32-encoded data into an alphanumeric-formatted QR code
> > with 5.5 bits per character, which would waste very little space. (Or,
> > more efficiently but less conveniently, base40 or so.)
>
> Base32 does sound good until you realize that it requires roughly 20%
> more space than Base64 does. We would need some calculations to
> decide if we were to go down this path.
QR has several encoding modes; it doesn't matter that base32 uses more
space in terms of characters, because QR itself has an alphanumeric
encoding mode that only uses 5.5 bits per character to encode 45
possible alphanumeric/symbol characters. base64 wastes far more
relative to bytes (6 versus 8 bits) than base32 wastes relative to QR
alphanumeric (5 versus 5.5 bits).
- Josh Triplett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-13 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-11 4:14 [Ksummit-discuss] " Jason Cooper
2014-05-11 15:57 ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-11 16:29 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-11 16:37 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-11 17:18 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-11 17:52 ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-11 21:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-12 16:15 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:36 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-12 16:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-30 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-12 17:00 ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-12 17:46 ` Teodora Băluţă
[not found] ` <CACV2jQCV=rRFg-+x1B3H1=GM5rB_YWp1UU1p7xXkozHKv1Ewvg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-05-13 6:44 ` [Ksummit-discuss] Fwd: " Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-13 7:08 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-13 15:52 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 18:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-13 20:18 ` josh [this message]
2014-05-14 8:20 ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-14 15:52 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-14 16:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-14 16:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-14 18:54 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-14 20:00 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-14 20:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-19 11:59 ` David Herrmann
2014-05-14 22:55 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-15 12:44 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 19:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 20:41 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 14:45 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " David Woodhouse
2014-05-15 19:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 19:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-12 15:53 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:49 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-12 17:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 17:50 ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-13 11:25 ` Greg KH
2014-05-13 14:41 ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-13 15:05 ` Greg KH
2014-05-13 15:51 ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-13 15:59 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-13 16:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-13 17:43 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 18:14 ` Teodora Baluta
2014-05-15 14:24 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15 16:02 ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-14 1:14 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-15 17:01 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15 17:11 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-17 15:02 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15 5:41 ` PJ Waskiewicz
2014-05-15 15:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-17 16:36 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-20 14:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-21 18:03 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-25 19:49 ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-15 19:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 21:13 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 16:03 ` Greg KH
2014-05-12 17:24 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-11 17:49 ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-12 10:13 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-12 2:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 6:13 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-12 9:23 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-12 13:48 ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-12 16:24 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 16:22 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 17:32 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 17:42 ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-12 15:46 ` Jason Cooper
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