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From: josh@joshtriplett.org
To: Levente Kurusa <levex@linux.com>
Cc: PJ Waskiewicz <pjwaskiewicz@gmail.com>,
	Dirk Hohndel <hohndel@infradead.org>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	Anton Arapov <arapov@gmail.com>,
	Sarah A Sharp <sarah@minilop.net>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Fwd: [TECH TOPIC] QR encoded oops for the kernel
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 13:18:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140513201858.GB2911@cloud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140513155207.GA3538@linux.com>

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 05:52:07PM +0200, Levente Kurusa wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:08:51AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 09:44:26AM +0300, Teodora Băluţă wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
> > > > I'd like the URL to be valid (meaning base64 the compressed data) so
> > > > that we can get the data to the kernel.org server as easily as possible.
> > > > Making the app a requirement for reporting is too onerous for
> > > > non-developers.  I see no reason we can't link to (Open in/Install) it
> > > > on the webform though.
> > > 
> > > So from what I can understand, the QR code has an URL that has the
> > > base64 of the compressed Oops message. Right? I see three problems
> > > with this approach:
> > > 
> > > - base64 adds about 33% overhead (it's turning 3 octets into 4 encoded
> > > characters + padding). One issue with QR codes is that they have a
> > > limited amount of characters they can hold so that's why I do the
> > > compression in the first place
> > 
> > Putting base64-encoded data in a URL in a binary-format QR code with 8
> > bits per character does indeed waste quite a bit of space.  However, you
> > could put base32-encoded data into an alphanumeric-formatted QR code
> > with 5.5 bits per character, which would waste very little space.  (Or,
> > more efficiently but less conveniently, base40 or so.)
> 
> Base32 does sound good until you realize that it requires roughly 20%
> more space than Base64 does. We would need some calculations to
> decide if we were to go down this path.

QR has several encoding modes; it doesn't matter that base32 uses more
space in terms of characters, because QR itself has an alphanumeric
encoding mode that only uses 5.5 bits per character to encode 45
possible alphanumeric/symbol characters.  base64 wastes far more
relative to bytes (6 versus 8 bits) than base32 wastes relative to QR
alphanumeric (5 versus 5.5 bits).

- Josh Triplett

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-13 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-11  4:14 [Ksummit-discuss] " Jason Cooper
2014-05-11 15:57 ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-11 16:29   ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-11 16:37     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-11 17:18       ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-11 17:52         ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-11 21:49           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-12 16:15           ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:36             ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-12 16:53               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-30 18:55                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-12 17:00               ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-12 17:46                 ` Teodora Băluţă
     [not found]             ` <CACV2jQCV=rRFg-+x1B3H1=GM5rB_YWp1UU1p7xXkozHKv1Ewvg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-05-13  6:44               ` [Ksummit-discuss] Fwd: " Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-13  7:08                 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-13 15:52                   ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 18:42                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-13 20:18                     ` josh [this message]
2014-05-14  8:20                       ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-14 15:52                         ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-14 16:00                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-14 16:09                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-14 18:54                     ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-14 20:00                       ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-14 20:24                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-19 11:59                           ` David Herrmann
2014-05-14 22:55                         ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-15 12:44                           ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15 19:19                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 19:18                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 20:41                         ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 14:45             ` [Ksummit-discuss] " David Woodhouse
2014-05-15 19:21               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 19:53                 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-12 15:53         ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:49           ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-12 17:09             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 17:50               ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-13 11:25                 ` Greg KH
2014-05-13 14:41                   ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-13 15:05                     ` Greg KH
2014-05-13 15:51                       ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-13 15:59                         ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-13 16:07                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-13 17:43                             ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 18:14                               ` Teodora Baluta
2014-05-15 14:24                                 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15 16:02                                   ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-14  1:14                             ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-15 17:01                               ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15 17:11                                 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-17 15:02                                   ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-15  5:41                             ` PJ Waskiewicz
2014-05-15 15:41                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-17 16:36                                 ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-20 14:47                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-21 18:03                                     ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-25 19:49                                       ` Teodora Băluţă
2014-05-15 19:24                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 21:13                               ` Levente Kurusa
2014-05-13 16:03                         ` Greg KH
2014-05-12 17:24             ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-11 17:49       ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-12 10:13     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-12  2:38   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12  6:13     ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-12  9:23       ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-12 13:48         ` Lukáš Czerner
2014-05-12 16:24           ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:45             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 16:22         ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 16:46           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-12 17:32             ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-12 17:42               ` Sarah A Sharp
2014-05-12 15:46   ` Jason Cooper

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