From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EB198F for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imap.thunk.org (imap.thunk.org [74.207.234.97]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13FCE2020C for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:43 -0400 From: Theodore Ts'o To: Josh Boyer Message-ID: <20140513160743.GA11391@thunk.org> References: <20140511171824.GB2527@linux.com> <20140512155320.GW12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> <20140512164921.GB3509@linux.com> <53710053.4040100@zytor.com> <20140513112525.GB10733@kroah.com> <20140513150520.GA15857@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: PJ Waskiewicz , Dirk Hohndel , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Anton Arapov , Jason Cooper , Sarah A Sharp Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] QR encoded oops for the kernel List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , I'll note this discussion has started mutating to a more general "how do we get more useful bug reports in front of developers", which I think is a good thing. However, I'm still not sure how useful it would be to have a tech topic (or a core topic) dedicated to the matter, because we've had discussions about and at the end of the day, what's probably really necessary is to have someone, or a small team, dedicated all or most of their time to: a) improving kerneloops.org b) finding interesting patterns in the bulk reported data, and then forwarding that on to developers c) finding ways of automating (b) QR encoded oops might be a means towards that end, but there might be other things that could be done as well. If someone were to *do* all of this work, then reporting on it and then asking for suggestions about how this service could be improved, might make a great tech topic. But in the absence of that, can folks suggest ways that this doesn't turn into a "I know, let's put a bell on the cat!" sort of discussion that doesn't lead to anything useful? - Ted