From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2609B1 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 23:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDEC420417 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 23:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2242E21A82 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 01:23:02 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Jason Cooper Message-ID: <20140512232302.GB17027@kroah.com> References: <20140511053037.GQ12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> <536FBA0E.5090301@gmail.com> <20140511190752.GC2527@linux.com> <20140511192630.GA14115@kroah.com> <20140512163838.GA12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140512163838.GA12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] hobbyist recruiting List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:38:38PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote: > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:16:02PM +0200, Levente Kurusa wrote: > > > Of course, the Eudyptula challenge did bring some new developers, > > > but as far as I see most of them posted only one patch/patchset. > > > > How do you know who is doing this challenge and who isn't? I see a lot > > of new people coming in with multiple sets of patches for cleanups and > > good fixes over the past month or so. > > Is it mostly in the staging tree? That's where I really got my feet wet > when I started. Assisting with code cleanup isn't glamorous, but it's a > good place to learn the ropes. And the staging tree is, imho, a more > receptive place for cleanup patches. Since the code isn't kernel > qwality to begin with. Most of the cleanup is in the staging tree that I see, given that I'm the maintainer of it, and we need lots of cleanup there :) > > If you track the number of unique people I take patches from, it's > > going up, as is our number of unique contributors to the kernel overall. > > It's been constantly increasing for the past 8 years, ever since I > > started tracking the kernel development statistics. > > Cool, I didn't know you were actively tracking that. Is the data > publicly hosted? Is that based on merged patches, or posted emails? It's based on merged patches, and can all be found at: https://github.com/gregkh/kernel-history along with the scripts that generate the numbers. > My primary goal is to draw attention to the issue of aggressive mail > filtering, new devs can pop up anywhere, and acknowledging them. By > acknowledge, I mean answering the email, and treating them like everyone > else. But we have to spot the emails first. Why would someone "new" be treated any differently? Everyone should be treated with the same response and respect. greg k-h