From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEEE2FA for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 16:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:38:38 -0400 From: Jason Cooper To: Greg KH Message-ID: <20140512163838.GA12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> References: <20140511053037.GQ12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> <536FBA0E.5090301@gmail.com> <20140511190752.GC2527@linux.com> <20140511192630.GA14115@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140511192630.GA14115@kroah.com> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] hobbyist recruiting List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:16:02PM +0200, Levente Kurusa wrote: > > Of course, the Eudyptula challenge did bring some new developers, > > but as far as I see most of them posted only one patch/patchset. > > How do you know who is doing this challenge and who isn't? I see a lot > of new people coming in with multiple sets of patches for cleanups and > good fixes over the past month or so. Is it mostly in the staging tree? That's where I really got my feet wet when I started. Assisting with code cleanup isn't glamorous, but it's a good place to learn the ropes. And the staging tree is, imho, a more receptive place for cleanup patches. Since the code isn't kernel qwality to begin with. > Trying to track where they actually come from is nothing I really care > about, and is probably impossible. Agreed. > If you track the number of unique people I take patches from, it's > going up, as is our number of unique contributors to the kernel overall. > It's been constantly increasing for the past 8 years, ever since I > started tracking the kernel development statistics. Cool, I didn't know you were actively tracking that. Is the data publicly hosted? Is that based on merged patches, or posted emails? > > Maybe, there is a way so that they will stay and work more? > > I have loads of work for people to do if they want to do it: > drivers/staging/*/TODO > > > Keep them somehow in the game, i.e. badges? Mozilla's Open Badges? > > Gamifaction? Really? No. Pointing to the TODO lists is sufficient. I don't think we would be doing the community any favors by encouraging developers who want a cookie for everything they did. My primary goal is to draw attention to the issue of aggressive mail filtering, new devs can pop up anywhere, and acknowledging them. By acknowledge, I mean answering the email, and treating them like everyone else. But we have to spot the emails first. thx, Jason.