From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EA14D3 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 05:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.66]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 147FF201E1 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 05:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pool-96-249-243-124.nrflva.fios.verizon.net ([96.249.243.124] helo=titan) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WjMLP-000E8V-7i for ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 05:30:39 +0000 Received: from titan.lakedaemon.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09199571A50 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 01:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 01:30:37 -0400 From: Jason Cooper To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Message-ID: <20140511053037.GQ12708@titan.lakedaemon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] hobbyist recruiting List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , All, During the proposal period for last year's KS, there was quite a bit of talk regarding maintainer survivorship. imho, the best solution involves continuously bringing in new maintainers and developers as they crop up. Should we encounter the unfortunate situation of needing to find a replacement, having plenty of pre-trained developers on hand gives us more flexibility. As a hobbyist, I of course think the answer is recruiting more hobbyists into the ranks :) Unfortunately, we ran out of time during the lightning round last year for me to give a short presentation on the topic of hobbyist recruiting. I'm not a fan of reaching out in the direct sense. I much prefer to keep my eye out for new comers who seek out the community and make sure they don't get ignored. I know a lot of us have pretty aggressive mail filtering out of necessity. For those interested in assisting me, I'd like to discuss creating some basic resources to facilitate spotting new comers and directing them as appropriate. Something as simple as creating a separate mailbox and ruleset for senders we haven't seen before (with a few keywords to filter out the spam) would help greatly. On a related topic, I've also started receiving patches from first time contributors who are taking part in the Eudyptula Challenge [1]. No, I hadn't heard of it either. It's very similar to the Matasano Crypto Challenge [2], except that it builds up to contributing patches to the kernel. If this topic is accepted, I'll give a status update on the hobbyists I've seen since the last KS, what work they've done (hint: those Chromecasts can boot mainline now ;-), I'll also compile some rough stats on first-time posters to the most popular email lists. eg was it legit, did anyone respond, did the poster return? Currently, I'm thinking lkml and lakml would be most relevant. There may be other lists I'm not aware of. Please let me know if that's the case. If anyone is already doing work in this area, I'd be interested in hearing from you as well. Nominations: Jason Cooper (auto-nominated) Andrew Lunn Sebastian Hesselbarth (auto-nominated) thx, Jason. [1] http://eudyptula-challenge.org/ [2] http://www.matasano.com/articles/crypto-challenges/