From: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>,
lizf.kern@gmail.com, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] stable issues
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 07:31:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140505113127.GJ28159@titan.lakedaemon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <536709BA.7070809@roeck-us.net>
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 08:47:06PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> This may be seen as somewhat strong definition of the term "severe",
> but in my work environment the attitude is to never update the kernel under
> any circumstances. Or, in other words, it is quite hostile to someone who
> advocates following upstream kernel releases. Each new bug, as minor as it
> may be in a practical sense, is seen as argument (or ammunition) against
> kernel updates. Note that this specifically includes performance regressions,
> as minor as they may be. Given that, I would love to see Fengguang's
> performance tests run on stable releases, simply because that would give me
> confidence (and proof) that no performance regressions were introduced.
Along this line, I keep coming back to an idea that I really need to
implement. Say your shop is running v3.12.3, and you'd like to migrate
to v3.12.7 because of a bugfix for your subsystem.
I imagine it would make the argument easier if you could quantify the
changes from v3.12.3 to v3.12.7 relevant to your kernel config. eg:
$ git diff v3.12.3..v3.12.7 | ./scripts/diff-filter mydefconfig
(no, diff-filter doesn't exist, yet)
I could also see using ./scripts/objdiff for this as well. Anything
that would help the engineer quantify the differences between the two
releases so he could ask the question, "Show me *which* change you're
uncomfortable with."
That's a much better position to be in than, "I swear, the -stable
process is legit. You can trust a bunch of people you've never met who
won't suffer any repercussions if our product fails."
This assumes a fairly minimal config, of course. ;-)
thx,
Jason.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-05 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-04 11:19 Li Zefan
2014-05-04 12:04 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-04 12:54 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-04 14:26 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 0:37 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-05 3:09 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-05 3:47 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 11:31 ` Jason Cooper [this message]
2014-05-05 13:40 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 6:10 ` Michal Simek
2014-05-05 2:47 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-05 13:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-05 15:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-05 15:39 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-05 16:02 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-05 16:07 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-05 16:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-05 22:33 ` Greg KH
2014-05-06 3:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-06 4:04 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-06 10:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-05 3:22 ` Greg KH
2014-05-04 15:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-04 15:45 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 3:00 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-05 1:03 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-07 2:49 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-07 2:58 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-07 8:27 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-07 8:39 ` Matt Fleming
2014-05-07 11:45 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-07 12:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-08 3:20 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-09 12:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-12 6:55 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-13 20:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-13 20:40 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-14 1:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-07 18:40 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-07 9:06 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-07 14:15 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-08 3:38 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-08 9:41 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-08 20:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-09 4:11 ` Greg KH
2014-05-09 5:33 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-09 5:41 ` Greg KH
2014-05-07 3:05 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-07 3:31 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-05-07 7:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-13 20:46 ` Steven Rostedt
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