From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893BB8B4 for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 15:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D37091F950 for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 15:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0013720DF7 for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 11:40:02 -0400 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Steven Rostedt Message-ID: <20140503154002.GA13523@kroah.com> References: <20140502160959.48b71dec@gandalf.local.home> <20140502162703.0e8ce876@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140502162703.0e8ce876@gandalf.local.home> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] stable workflow List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 04:27:03PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Fri, 2 May 2014 22:12:50 +0200 (CEST) > Jiri Kosina wrote: > > > > Hmm, I don't see how maintainer cherry-picking into 'for-stable' branch is > > different from stable team cherry-picking from Linus' tree. > > I think it's more a level of trust. IIRC (and Greg, please chime in > here) there's been more than one instance that people would send Greg > something for stable that hasn't hit mainline. Yes, that has happened more times than I like. I also get maintainers sending me patches that say they match a specific git id in Linus's tree, when they really aren't that at all, or are patches mushed together, and other horrible things. So I want a git id list, if you forget to mark the stable cc: in the patch. Or a patch with the git id in it, which I will verify really is the patch in question. As I said last year, I do take git pulls from subsystem maintainers that I "trust". David Miller does great things with him sending mboxes full of patches. There's other subsystems that also send me pull requests at times. If you, or any other subsystem maintainer wants to do this for stable trees, that's wonderful, I'll be glad to work with anyone on this. But again, I don't want to cause _ANY_ extra burden on subsystem maintainers for the stable kernel work. Adding a Cc: is all I will ever ask for. Maintainers are our most limited resource right now, and I will not ask them to spend cycles on something that takes away from their mainline work. It's up to the person who is willing to be a stable maintainer to do the work maintaining that kernel. That's a responsibility they asked for, and it's up to them to figure out the easiest way for them to do it. Asking subsystem maintainers to do work for the stable maintainers is not acceptable at all. thanks, greg k-h