From: tytso@mit.edu
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>,
Sarah Sharp <sarah@minilop.net>,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>,
Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:56:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140502215644.GA9856@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140502210123.GA13536@redhat.com>
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 05:01:23PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> This is starting to tread into the other thread about userspace
> mandating 'optional' facilities, but is that even a problem, given
> the proliferation of init's (taking the systemd example).
For the record, there is no "other thread" because as Jiri pointed out
(and I agree) it's not at all clear there's anything we as kernel
developers can do about this. Once some kind of system call interface
is made available in mainline, it's not at all realistic to say that
"it's only for this use case".
If someone thinks that it might be worthwhile to start such a thread
and/or propose that that might be a worthy topic for the kernel
summit, feel free to start such a thread --- but I'd suggest doing so
after coming up with a proposed solution to how we could even
influence what facilities various bits of userspace might want to
mandate.
Cheers,
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-02 21:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-02 16:44 Josh Triplett
2014-05-02 17:11 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 17:20 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 17:33 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 17:46 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-02 19:02 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 19:03 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-02 19:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-02 19:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-02 19:49 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 20:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-02 20:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-05-02 21:01 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 21:19 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 21:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-02 21:36 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 21:27 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 21:39 ` Josh Boyer
2014-05-02 22:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 17:18 ` josh
2014-05-06 17:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-09 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-09 20:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-09 22:50 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-10 0:23 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-10 0:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-10 3:44 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-03 17:30 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 21:56 ` tytso [this message]
2014-05-02 20:45 ` Ben Hutchings
2014-05-02 21:03 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-03 13:37 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-03 13:35 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-03 13:32 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-02 19:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 19:45 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-02 21:03 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 21:08 ` Dave Jones
2014-05-02 21:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-02 21:21 ` Luck, Tony
2014-05-02 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-03 1:21 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-07 12:35 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-09 15:51 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-02 17:33 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-02 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-07 11:32 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-07 16:38 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-02 22:04 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-05 23:45 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-06 2:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-09 16:22 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-09 16:59 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-09 17:23 ` josh
2014-05-08 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-12 17:35 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-13 16:36 ` Bird, Tim
2014-05-13 18:00 ` josh
2014-05-14 1:04 ` Julia Lawall
2014-08-17 9:45 ` [Ksummit-discuss] tiny.wiki.kernel.org Josh Triplett
2014-05-08 16:24 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 0:31 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-09 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 16:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 16:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 17:21 ` josh
2014-05-09 17:42 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-09 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2014-05-09 18:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 19:02 ` Julia Lawall
2014-05-09 20:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-09 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-05-12 18:06 ` Dave Hansen
2014-05-12 20:20 ` Roland Dreier
2014-05-14 2:37 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-15 19:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 20:00 ` Greg KH
2014-05-15 20:29 ` Guenter Roeck
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