From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22B78486 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-f173.google.com (mail-qk0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AC4E147 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 16so8415767qkg.2 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:602:9802:a8dc:1722:8a6b:a66c:79eb? ([2601:602:9802:a8dc:1722:8a6b:a66c:79eb]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r7sm2256942qtb.4.2017.06.21.15.34.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:34:12 -0700 (PDT) To: ksummit From: Laura Abbott Message-ID: <1de3c642-a4b7-1065-5c35-ba32866d471d@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:34:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Bug reporting feedback loop List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Fedora tends to follow the most recent stable kernel very closely (e.g. 4.11.6 is currently pending for Fedora 24, 25, and 26). This works well enough, but there still seem to be some disconnects in the bug reporting process. Examples I can think of: - When users report bugs on the Fedora tracker that look like actual upstream bugs, what's the best way to have those reported? I typically end up having to summarize from the Fedora bugzilla and send an e-mail which ends up being tedious. Can we make this bug reporting easier for non-kernel developers? - There's still a gap between when bugs hit Linus' tree and when stable releases come out. This is not a knock against stable or a request for stable to go faster :). I try and monitor stable@ for fixes but there still seems to be a large time gap for identifying fixes that have been fixes in master that are relevant to a recent stable release. - Are pictures of kernel panic still the most reliable method of getting information for early crashes? I keep getting pictures in 'creative' formats. Thanks, Laura