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The bugs I'm fixing was for code in linux-next >>> where the bugs were never found. They only appeared when they went into >>> Linus's tree. So why put the fixes in linux-next, if it didn't catch >>> the bugs I fixed in the first place? >> >> Hmmm... >> >> Your arguments sound very similar to those being used in recent >> discussions about not posting patches for public review... >> >> Please follow the process! ;-) > > What process? > > Note, I probably post everything to mailing lists more than anyone > else (besides stable). All my commits come from mailing lists. Even > things I change myself. I always send out the change to a list. Then I > use patchwork to pull it into my tree. > > After the changes are tested, I send out the patches *again* with my > [for-next] tags in the subject. If it's a fix for Linus, it goes out as > a "[for-linus]" tag. These emails automatically update my patchwork > status. > > No change goes into Linus's tree from me that hasn't been sent out > publicly. > > But pushing to linux-next for a day or two, what does that give me? > I don't send pull requests without soaking it in next for 2 to 3 days. It helps me find problems related to things something breaking on an architecture and/or config. I find next very helpful in finding merge conflicts and build/test breakages. thanks, -- Shuah