From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0012.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 498107C; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omf06.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B67A04D5; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: joe@perches.com) by omf06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B1A862000F; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1bc2b9ad8c04de55053a020481b66c2229fa720b.camel@perches.com> Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" From: Joe Perches To: Geert Uytterhoeven , "Artem S. Tashkinov" Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 11:56:06 -0700 In-Reply-To: <3381c74ad6862224e4511d7edf6f9681c678338b.camel@perches.com> References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> <9a2fdff8-d0d3-ebba-d344-3c1016237fe5@gmx.com> <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> <3381c74ad6862224e4511d7edf6f9681c678338b.camel@perches.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.4 (3.44.4-2.fc36) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Stat-Signature: tp6ctf7by1iiiu31zs6czza9q9y3n58e X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout06 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B1A862000F X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.60 X-Session-Marker: 6A6F6540706572636865732E636F6D X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX18bTZhhwKWfzeqBcpQrtYfQknRXtK1hSzc= X-HE-Tag: 1664736951-789270 On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 09:32 -0700, Joe Perches wrote: > On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 18:08 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > > > The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be = a > > > ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep tra= ck > > > of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LK= ML > > > is the worst of them probably. > >=20 > > Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers... > >=20 > > > Let's operate with some examples: > > >=20 > > > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at > > > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average. > >=20 > > This immediately debunks your statement above. >=20 > true. >=20 > > $ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l > > 2928 > >=20 > > So that's 46 bugs fixed per _day_. >=20 > But not really. Many, perhaps even most, of these "Fixes:" are for code > introduced in -rc releases and so are a typical part of a development > cycle and are not for fixes in nominally released/final versions. Unless I stuffed something up, it looks like only about 2% of these "Fixes: " commits were for existing defects in earlier non-rc releases. $ git log --grep=3D"^Fixes:" --no-merges --pretty=3Doneline v5.18..v5.19 | = wc -l 2531 $ git log --grep=3D"^Fixes:" --no-merges --pretty=3Doneline v5.18..v5.19 | = \ cut -f1 -d" " | \ while read line ; do \ echo -n "---> $line" ; \ echo ":$(git rev-list --max-count=3D2 v5.18..$line | wc -l)" ; \ done | \ grep ":1" | wc -l 54