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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 20:18:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1814283.64diKEr4zR@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181007113514.GA21217@localhost>

Hi Josh,

On Sunday, 7 October 2018 14:35:14 EEST Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 10:51:02AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > Providing an explicit list of discrimination factors may give the false
> > impression that discrimination based on other unlisted factors would be
> > allowed.
> > 
> > Avoid any ambiguity by removing the list, to ensure "a harassment-free
> > experience for everyone", period.
> 
> I would suggest reading the commit message that added this in the first
> place. "Explicit guidelines have demonstrated success in other projects
> and other areas of the kernel." See also various comparisons of codes of
> conduct, which make the same point. The point of this list is precisely
> to serve as one such explicit guideline; removing it would rather defeat
> the purpose.
> 
> In any case, this is not the appropriate place for such patches, any
> more than it's the place for patches to the GPL.

So what's an appropriate place to discuss the changes that we would like, 
*together*, to make to the current document and propose upstream ? As stated 
in another e-mail in a similar thread, I believe we need to come together and 
decide on what we want to do. We still have no official forum to do so, and 
repeatedly telling people that ksummit-discuss and LKML are not the right 
place won't make the concerns go away. Only by discussing problems will we 
come to solutions.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-07 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-07  8:51 Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-07 11:35 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-07 17:18   ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2018-10-08  2:29     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-08 14:12       ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:27         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-08 14:36           ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-08 14:30         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 15:43           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08  8:55   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 12:02   ` Mark Brown
2018-10-08 15:42   ` Alan Cox
2018-10-08 16:14     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 20:55 ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-10 21:15   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2018-10-10 22:16   ` Josh Triplett
     [not found]     ` <20181010223319.GA31256@thyrsus.com>
2018-10-10 23:35       ` Frank Rowand
2018-10-17  7:19 Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17  9:13 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17  9:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-17 13:32     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 15:22       ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:21     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 15:49       ` James Bottomley
2018-10-17 16:00         ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-17 18:36       ` Mark Brown
2018-10-17 13:45   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-17 16:18   ` Joe Perches
2018-10-22 21:06 ` Pavel Machek

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