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From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: "James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: "Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev, "Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Enhancing Commit Tagging for Stable Kernel Branches
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:29:51 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <172099979104.15471.15239002304647683093@noble.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0e6c7c8ed259dcb50631c6fdc3d86d3080bdc6f3.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2024-07-14 at 16:27 -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 12:27:55PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> [...]
> > > I would hope that *all* commits improve on something. And if it's
> > > an actual fix to a previous commit, it should say so.
> > > 
> > > If it's just a random improvement, it shouldn't refer to a previous
> > > commit at all.
> > 
> > This is *one* view. I've observed that both individuals and companies
> > started requiring a fixes tag unless they're writing a new feature.
> > 
> > Heck, back in Google you couldn't commit anything that is not a new
> > feature unless the commit message had a "Fixes:" tag to make the bot
> > happy.
> 
> But we know how to enforce a unified view of process: we document it in
> Documentaion/process ... and indeed we already have a handling-
> regressions.rst which says:
> 
>     * Add a "Fixes:" tag to specify the commit causing the regression.

Interesting.  I don't think Fixes means that the target introduced a
regression, though that is one possibility.
Fixes could also mean that the target introduced a feature that didn't
quite work as intended.
Sometimes Fixes means that the target introduced a typo in a comment - I
wouldn't use it that way, but some people do and I find it hard to
disagree.
(and maybe all these targets do regress the "total perfection" score for
 Linux.....)

I'd generally be happy with any commit marked "Fixes" getting into a kernel that
contains the target.  In my mind the issues are more about:
 - how quickly should the fix land.  There is no easy answer.
 - Are Fixes focused on a backportable fix, or do they combine a fix with
   new functionality?  I think they are often quite focused, but it
   wouldn't hurt to often remind each other of the importance of focused
   fixes.

NeilBrown

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-14 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-14 12:31 Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 13:35 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 15:35   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-07-14 16:34     ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 18:38   ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 19:20     ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 20:18       ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-15 18:00         ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-07-15 18:07           ` Mark Brown
2024-07-15 19:06           ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 19:23             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-15 19:24             ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 19:28               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-07-15 19:30                 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 19:39               ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-16  6:30                 ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 20:25               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 20:47             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-07-16  6:28               ` Greg KH
2024-07-16 12:20                 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-07-17 22:05                   ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-18  7:34                     ` Takashi Iwai
2024-07-18 14:48                       ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-18 14:56                         ` James Bottomley
2024-07-18 16:36                           ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-19  0:49                             ` NeilBrown
2024-07-19  1:35                               ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-19 11:55                                 ` Vegard Nossum
2024-07-23 14:14                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2024-07-16 14:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-16 19:38         ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15  6:15     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-14 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-14 18:47   ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 19:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-14 20:27       ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-14 23:05         ` James Bottomley
2024-07-14 23:09           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-15  8:02             ` Greg KH
2024-07-15  8:53               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 12:48               ` Mimi Zohar
2024-07-15 12:52                 ` Mimi Zohar
2024-07-15 14:34                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2024-07-15 14:40                     ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 15:00                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-07-15 15:07                         ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 15:19                           ` Sasha Levin
2024-07-15 15:31                             ` James Bottomley
2024-07-15 15:42                             ` Dan Carpenter
2024-07-15 15:10                         ` Greg KH
2024-07-15 17:45                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2024-07-15 18:04                       ` Mark Brown
2024-07-15 20:51                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2024-07-16  6:25                         ` Greg KH
2024-07-16 15:00                           ` Mark Brown
2024-07-14 23:29           ` NeilBrown [this message]
2024-07-14 23:29         ` Steven Rostedt

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