From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Draft Maintainer's Summit Agenda and Attendees
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:19:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1539713962.2805.41.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181016180010.GC4367@localhost>
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 11:00 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 08:13:17AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 10:11 +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > And I don't see anyone else from an external community with real
> > > experience (or someone who does consulting in this area) invited
> > > to fill that gap either.
> >
> > I don't buy the narrative that you must be a CoC consultant or
> > implementor to make a difference.
>
> We typically don't make major changes in a specialized domain without
> consulting domain experts, to avoid building a solution that won't
> work or ignores well-known issues in that domain. We wouldn't go off
> and build a virtualization subsystem without consulting
> virtualization experts; we wouldn't build a storage subsystem without
> consulting storage experts; we wouldn't hack on a license without
> consulting legal experts; the same applies here.
I notice you carefully cut the part about people who've been active in
helping the kernel in this regard already being present; so we do have
some domain experts ... plus no external ones have actually been
proposed at this point.
We also don't usually listen deferentially to domain experts ...
spectre and meltdown would be a case in point here.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-16 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-16 2:12 Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-16 8:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-16 15:13 ` James Bottomley
2018-10-16 18:00 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-16 18:19 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2018-10-16 18:38 ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-16 18:46 ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-16 18:57 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-16 18:52 ` James Bottomley
2018-10-16 18:16 ` Mark Brown
2018-10-16 18:36 ` Chris Mason
2018-10-16 19:53 ` [Ksummit-discuss] new topic: regression test infrastructure? (was Draft Maintainer's Summit Agenda and Attendees - ) Christian Borntraeger
2018-10-16 20:51 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-16 21:11 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-10-16 21:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-10-16 21:46 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-17 0:08 ` Michael Ellerman
2018-10-17 1:06 ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-17 1:51 ` Shuah Khan
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