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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	"w@1wt.eu" <w@1wt.eu>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches
Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 07:33:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1525357984.3225.12.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877eol808s.fsf@intel.com>

On Thu, 2018-05-03 at 14:08 +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2018, "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> > Post -rc3 or -rc4, in my opinion bug fixes should wait until the
> > next
> > merge window before they get merged at all.
> 
> What are -rc5 and later for then if not bug fixes? Baffled.

They're definitely for bug fixes, but there's a spectrum: obvious bug
fixes with no side effects are easy to justify.  More complex bug fixes
run the risk of having side effects which introduce other bugs, so
could potentially destabilize the -rc process.  In SCSI we tend to look
at what the user visible effects of the bug are in the post -rc5 region
and if they're slight or wouldn't be visible to most users, we'll hold
them over.  If the fix looks complex and we're not sure we caught the
ramifications, we often add it to the merge window tree with a cc to
stable and a note saying to wait X weeks before actually adding to the
stable tree just to make sure no side effects show up with wider
testing.  So, as with most things, it's a judgment call for the
maintainer.

James

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-03 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-01 16:38 Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 19:44 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 20:00   ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 20:48     ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-01 20:42       ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 20:54     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 21:15       ` Mark Brown
2018-05-02  8:11         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-05-02 19:46           ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03  2:05             ` Mark Brown
2018-05-03  3:10               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-03  3:52                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 12:03                   ` Greg KH
2018-05-03 22:42                   ` Mark Brown
2018-05-03 23:09                     ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-04 14:21                       ` Ulf Hansson
2018-05-09  8:44                         ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09  8:47                           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-05-09  8:51                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-09  9:03                             ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09 10:47                               ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 10:55                                 ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-09 12:43                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 12:47                                     ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-15 10:42                                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2018-05-15 11:54                                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 14:05                                 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09 22:09                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-10 13:36                                     ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 22:01                                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 15:57                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-09 21:45                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 16:04                                 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-09 21:51                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 19:35                                 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-09 21:58                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-10  3:15                                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-10 15:57                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-10 22:05                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-11  8:49                                 ` David Sterba
2018-05-12  4:03                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-12  4:38                                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-12 18:34                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-13 13:53                                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-05-14  8:36                                 ` Ulf Hansson
2018-05-14 21:45                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-17  5:10                                   ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 16:03                             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-05-10 16:47                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-14  7:53                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:00                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:12                                     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14  8:29                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:34                                         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14  8:40                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14  8:48                                             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14  9:25                                               ` Fengguang Wu
2018-05-11  2:10                               ` Mark Brown
2018-05-08  2:34                       ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08  3:48                         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-08 14:49                           ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-09  8:13                             ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 15:36                             ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-08 20:29                           ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 20:40                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-08 20:55                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 21:06                                 ` David Lang
2018-05-08 21:43                                   ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 21:51                                     ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08 22:41                                     ` James Bottomley
2018-05-08 21:26                                 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-08 21:08                             ` Ken Moffat
2018-05-09  4:47                             ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-08 13:58                         ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-08  2:39                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 22:02       ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02  4:30         ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-02 19:42           ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02 20:02             ` Willy Tarreau
2018-07-14 17:38               ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-14 18:37                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-07-14 19:47                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-14 20:40                     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-07-14 21:09                       ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-15  5:57                         ` Willy Tarreau
2018-07-15  8:54                 ` Greg KH
2018-07-15 14:50                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-07-15 20:15                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-03 11:08       ` Jani Nikula
2018-05-03 14:33         ` James Bottomley [this message]
2018-05-03 14:49           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 15:06             ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 15:27               ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 15:43                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 17:17                   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-03 17:39                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 18:10                   ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 15:57                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 18:58         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 23:28     ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-01 23:10 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-02 15:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02 19:51   ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02 20:41     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-03  0:06       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-03  0:38         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03  2:30           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 14:55           ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 15:49             ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 16:02               ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 16:50                 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-03 17:09                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 11:48         ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 14:46         ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 14:52           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 15:01             ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 16:01               ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 16:15                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 16:35                   ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 17:29                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 17:57                       ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 18:12                         ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 18:46                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 19:03                           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 16:54           ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 17:34             ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 18:20               ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 18:55                 ` Greg KH
2018-05-03 19:14                   ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 19:17                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 19:04                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-04  9:57                 ` David Howells
2018-05-04 12:31                   ` Jani Nikula
2018-05-04 13:09                     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-04 17:40                       ` Greg KH
2018-05-04 21:13                         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-04 21:38                           ` James Bottomley
2018-05-04 21:51                             ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-04 23:35                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-05  4:24                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-05  5:02                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-05 16:37                                     ` Greg KH
2018-05-05  5:27                                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 11:43       ` Al Viro
2018-05-02 15:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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