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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@sirena.org.uk>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Last minute nominations: mcgrof and toshi
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 18:21:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1470090069.23563.475.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX134Qnv4Xy2RAHO2QXka9_k9qAoEqrXaw-mX2kAkrzig@mail.gmail.com>

On Mo, 2016-08-01 at 10:59 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:

> Mimi, I'm curious: I don't fully understand what is covered by IMA
> policy.  How does the IMA kernel_read_file stuff deal with symlinks?
> For example, if I symlink /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-8265-21.ucode to
> /home/badguy/iwlwifi-8265-21.ucode, what happens?  What if I symlink
> /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-8265-21.ucode to /home/badguy/something_else?
> Or even /lib/modules/kernel/foo/bar.ko to /home/badguy/evil.ko?  The
> interesting case is where the "badguy" user is duly authorized to
> write to /home/badguy and holds whatever keys may be needed.

Lets step back a second.  In order for a key to be added to the IMA
keyring, the key must be signed by a key on the builtin keyring.  The
key on the builtin keyring can be compiled into the kernel image or
added post build using Mehmet Kayaalp's patches.

True, any key on the IMA keyring could be used to verify file signatures
(in IMA terminology appraise the file's integrity).  The enumeration is
a first step to making sure that only properly signed code is read by
the kernel.  The next step requires finer grain key management.  In
general, pathname based policies are not a good idea.  Whatever method
is defined, it should not be limited to just firmware or files read by
the kernel, but to all files.

Mimi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-01 22:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-04 15:26 Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-04 22:20 ` Toshi Kani
2016-07-15 19:50 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-15 19:57   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-16  0:52     ` Mark Brown
2016-07-26 14:42       ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-27 14:04         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Signature management - keys, modules, firmware, was: " Jason Cooper
2016-07-27 14:58           ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-27 18:17           ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-07-27 18:36             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-29 12:29           ` Ben Hutchings
2016-08-05 17:16             ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-05 18:24               ` Ben Hutchings
2016-08-02 12:54           ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-02 14:00             ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-02 14:09               ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrUjn7TeGbS4TQ+OFih-nby2Rh54i5177MOwqjTYDBMO=A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrU6aQ5PR_+M7QHkTWos6i6vVS2nvEQDwr5ktBkWu-5MKw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrW8uRK4cuQ+B6NPcO0pY-=-HRDf4LZk4xv2QdPzNEvMCg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrW_mQLmR6g_Ar8Nnpr7CRFZhth=Hj9C901Gj7_WSp=yEQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-02 14:53                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 14:13             ` James Bottomley
2016-08-03  9:47               ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-03 10:00                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-08-03 10:28                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-03 10:41                   ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-03 11:18                     ` Jani Nikula
2016-08-03 15:19                     ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-12 12:38                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-12 12:39                   ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-12 12:54                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-12 13:00                     ` David Woodhouse
2016-08-12 13:12                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-27 14:08         ` David Howells
2016-07-27 14:10           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-27 14:23             ` Mark Brown
2016-07-27 15:06         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " James Bottomley
2016-08-01 10:22           ` Johannes Berg
2016-07-27 15:37         ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:14           ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 17:57             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-27 19:00               ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 19:20                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-27 19:50                   ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 16:07         ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:25           ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 16:10         ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:14         ` David Howells
2016-07-27 16:28           ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 16:36             ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 17:20               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-27 17:51                 ` James Bottomley
2016-07-27 18:57                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-27 19:37               ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-27 20:09                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-27 22:54                   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-27 23:15                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-28  3:17                       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-28  3:29                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-28 16:57                   ` Jason Cooper
2016-07-29 22:10                     ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-29 22:25                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-30 16:36                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-31  3:08                           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-31  3:09                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-31 15:31                               ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-31 16:19                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-31 17:28                                   ` Mimi Zohar
2016-07-31 18:20                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01  1:52                                       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-01 17:29                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 17:59                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 20:23                                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 20:37                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 20:57                                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-01 21:14                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 22:56                                                   ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-01 23:12                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02  0:33                                                   ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                                     ` <CALCETrXHfUULy-EB13Kbkjwco-2UVgsuRsG+OicZT6_uOkzeqA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <CALCETrWqpQV1AyxVx5eTkJiOe3t7ZFpSAuN2RG3JNHD-gqm0uA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-02  0:48                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02  1:13                                                           ` James Bottomley
2016-08-02  1:23                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 18:12                                                               ` James Bottomley
2016-08-01 22:21                                           ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2016-08-01 22:36                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 23:02                                               ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-01 23:04                                               ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-01 23:13                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-01 23:30                                                   ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                                                     ` <CALCETrWDsMdU2-AWQC4wYvotnNd2ydWT15Ckq0nZaNRJZOtZ-g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <CALCETrW-P8+yGuEgM2BT+aCfZqJ=ekB2Xsz+4xhWtdRpprJHNw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-01 23:45                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 12:20                                                           ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                                                             ` <CALCETrVEY=opRPGKy=P9h8s+TC_K19WnBJ2svXT+=_FnqRF1Mw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                               ` <CALCETrVZtn_SmeN1YX9_+2g+bEAHsfJJ7KQH7-eC_mU3O+0x2w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-02 15:07                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 16:44                                                                   ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-03 17:20                                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-03 17:50                                                                       ` Jason Cooper
2016-08-01 17:15                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-02 18:55                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 19:02                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-02 19:08                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 19:14                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-02 19:17                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-02 19:20                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-02 20:22                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-07-29 12:43               ` Ben Hutchings
2016-07-29 17:57                 ` Mimi Zohar

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