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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Compiler shopping list
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 06:35:49 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1469306149.8568.209.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1469203184.120686.212.camel@infradead.org>

On Fri, 2016-07-22 at 16:59 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> I'm not sure Linus proposed that. I certainly did, many times.
> 
> With the work I put in to make use of __builtin_bswapXX() we do have
> a
> *certain* amount of the functionality that full endianness
> attribution
> would give us — the compiler can see and optimise certain
> load/mask/save operations, and can use movbe and equivalent
> instructions.
> 
> But a full implementation that let us just do assignment without
> jumping through the hoops might still be nice.

One advantage of that is it might allow to work around a limitation
with the current __biultin_bswap* and READ_ONCE/ACCESS_ONCE (such
as used in gup).

The ACCESS_ONCE magic pretty much forces the compiler to separate
the load from the swap, it thus prevents us from using the byteswapped-
load instructions that we have on powerpc, thus degrading to a load
followed by the 5 or 6 instructions (with back-to-back dependencies)
needed to do the swap.

This caused a measurable performance hit on microbenchmarks when
we forced our page tables big endian on a little endian kernel (in
order to accomodate for POWER9 new radix MMU).

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-23 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-22 10:41 David Howells
2016-07-22 15:52 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-22 15:59   ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-22 17:05     ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-07-22 17:17       ` James Bottomley
2016-07-22 17:33         ` David Woodhouse
2016-07-29  1:16       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-23 20:35     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2016-07-23 23:09       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-07-25 18:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-29  1:32 ` Steven Rostedt

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