From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: dan.j.williams@intel.com, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Replacing Link trailers
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 13:55:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <146639e2bc8b5327f57e4297f5a0fcfd3c86d95c.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68efd54da845e_2f89910071@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch>
On Wed, 2025-10-15 at 10:09 -0700, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> > So unless we have one big "all the notes merged into one" tree
> > somewhere
>
> ...circling back to say. Why *not* do this?
>
> When Linus says:
>
> > And maybe lore could even have particular indexing for the data you
> > are interested in if that helps.
> >
> > In my experience, Konstantin has been very responsive when people
> > have
> > asked for those kinds of things (both b4 and lore).
>
> ...why not a notes tree? Make a convention for subsystems to annotate
> notes updates in pull requests. Linus workflow does not change,
> mainline metadata unaffected, but pr-tracker-bot is enabled to update
> the central 'notes' tree.
I think part of the problem with notes is they're designed not to be
shared. So there are lots of diverse internal uses for notes that
aren't just the annotations you're thinking of here, so when I push to
a notes tree, I'd likely have to filter and when I pull from it I
wouldn't necessarily want everyone else's notes ... it's like when you
forget to add --no-tags to a pull from someone else's tree and you get
a load of their internal tags that contaminates your internal tag pool.
> This gives a path for subsystems to ship metadata that their
> downstreams care about.
Yes, but not all subsystems would care about everything even in this
notes driven annotations model ... so you either have to have filter on
pull or strict rules about what goes in, which then causes issues with
local notes uses.
That's not to say we can't make it work, but I think if something is
important enough to be global it should be part of the commit tree in
some form.
Regards,
James
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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-13 11:53 James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-13 12:48 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 12:50 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 14:52 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-10-13 17:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-14 19:12 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-14 19:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 22:01 ` Johannes Berg
2025-10-15 22:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 10:16 ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Hans de Goede
2025-10-16 18:39 ` David Woodhouse
2025-10-16 7:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-14 20:23 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 8:08 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-10-13 15:40 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 16:31 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 17:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-13 17:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-10-13 19:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-13 19:35 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-13 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 19:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:34 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-13 20:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-13 20:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-10-13 20:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-13 21:46 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-14 14:23 ` Sasha Levin
2025-10-14 11:09 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-13 19:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-14 16:01 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-14 17:46 ` Greg KH
2025-10-14 17:57 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:09 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 17:55 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2025-10-15 18:04 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-15 18:37 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-15 19:13 ` dan.j.williams
2025-10-15 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-15 22:51 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-16 4:26 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-10-16 6:57 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 10:04 ` Jani Nikula
2025-10-16 11:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 12:18 ` Greg KH
2025-10-16 12:29 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:00 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-10-16 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 14:36 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 14:58 ` Rob Herring
2025-10-16 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 15:52 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 19:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:32 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 23:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-16 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-17 2:27 ` Doug Anderson
2025-10-17 8:44 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 9:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-17 10:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-10-16 12:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Mark Brown
2025-10-16 12:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-10-16 13:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-16 12:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-10-16 12:54 ` James Bottomley
2025-10-16 13:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-16 16:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-10-16 12:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-15 21:29 ` Kees Cook
2025-10-15 21:40 ` Mark Brown
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