From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: jkkm@jkkm.org, Luis Rodriguez <mcgrof@gmail.com>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Firmware signing
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:42:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1438101758.5441.169.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29878.1438100339@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 17:18 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>
> > Agreed. See about. I don't think the concept of trust should be as
> > simple as "we trust" or "we don't trust" -- we should trust certain
> > vendors for certain purposes only.
>
> How do you deal with a big vendor, like Intel, that makes lots of different
> bits for lots of different purposes?
I don't understand what you think the problem is? What's not clear
about "we have to trust the vendor". If they choose to use a single key
for multiple drivers, it's no more or less a problem than if they choose
multiple keys, one for each driver.
I think the trust we're investing is in the provenance of the blob, not
the blob itself, so the firmware can't be substituted with a malicious
version by an outside entity. If we don't trust the firmware vendor,
then all bets are off and the provenance chain is pretty meaningless.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-28 16:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-28 13:36 David Howells
2015-07-28 14:23 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 16:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-28 15:10 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 15:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 15:31 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 16:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:10 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 16:15 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 16:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:44 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 17:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:19 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 19:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 19:43 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 22:03 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-11 20:24 ` David Howells
2015-08-11 21:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-11 22:03 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-12 18:22 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 18:45 ` David Woodhouse
2015-08-12 19:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:15 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-12 19:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:43 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-12 19:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-13 7:03 ` Jan Kara
2015-08-13 14:01 ` James Bottomley
2015-08-12 22:46 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 22:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 19:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 22:39 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 22:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 22:45 ` David Howells
2015-08-12 22:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:18 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 16:42 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2015-07-28 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:09 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 17:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 2:00 ` James Morris
2015-07-28 16:58 ` Josh Boyer
2015-07-28 15:12 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 18:47 ` Peter Jones
2015-07-28 19:14 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 19:52 ` Peter Jones
2015-07-28 16:17 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 19:11 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 19:34 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-28 21:53 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 22:39 ` David Howells
2015-07-28 22:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 8:39 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 18:36 ` josh
2015-07-28 18:44 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-28 18:54 ` josh
2015-07-28 19:06 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-07-28 21:38 ` Greg KH
2015-07-28 23:59 ` josh
2015-07-29 0:17 ` Greg KH
2015-07-29 9:37 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 15:00 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-29 15:35 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 16:38 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-29 17:32 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 23:39 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 8:08 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-30 13:48 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 14:21 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-30 14:30 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 15:01 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-30 16:17 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-30 19:17 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-31 14:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-07-31 16:14 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-31 17:25 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-30 16:24 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-29 16:35 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-29 8:29 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 11:57 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-29 12:02 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-29 12:24 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-28 19:23 ` David Woodhouse
2015-07-28 19:19 ` David Howells
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