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From: Darren Vincent Hart <darren@dvhart.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Driver model/resources, ACPI, DT, etc (sigh)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 20:02:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1400295744.9575.104.camel@wasp-deb.dvhart.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4779952.HbUGmSHJeO@wuerfel>

On Wed, 2014-05-14 at 14:06 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 May 2014 14:14:42 Olof Johansson wrote:
> > On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:35:41PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 06 May 2014 14:18:56 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > 
> > > We should definitely be able to have an interface like this for
> > > ACPI, but you don't have a 'struct device_node' pointer then.
> > > We can add a new
> > > 
> > > bool dev_property_read_bool(const struct device *dev,
> > >                             const char *propname);
> > 
> > > 
> > > that handles both, but then you have to change every driver
> > > that is already using of_property_read_bool() and that can
> > > get used with ACPI.
> > 
> > It's actually not that easy in practice. There's not a one-to-one
> > correspondence between device tree nodes and struct devices in the
> > kernel. There are many bindings that use subnodes for sections of their
> > information, and so on.
> 
> I also don't think we can have a grand unified solution to the general
> problem, but doing the above would solve a lot of individual problems
> for all the simple drivers that don't use sub-nodes in DT.
> 
> I really don't see any downsides to using a common named property
> API for simple values in drivers that can.
> 
> Devices with sub-nodes are by definition complex to handle, and
> I think we will always have cases that are too complex to use
> a common interface. At the moment, we can share drivers that
> have only memory and irq resources, which is a significant share
> already. We can over time extend this to drivers that use strings,
> booleans, integers, or arrays of those. We can also extend it
> for things like gpios and dma-channels (both of which partly work
> already but are limited when it comes to naming) and a few other
> things.


Agreed, well said.


-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-17  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-02 21:42 Olof Johansson
2014-05-03  0:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-03  2:02   ` Mark Brown
2014-05-04 12:28     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  8:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 19:06         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-06 12:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-12 21:59           ` Mark Brown
2014-05-12 22:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13  7:34               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 10:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 12:11                 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13 13:08                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 19:31                     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13 19:53                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 21:19                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 13:04                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-15 12:05                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  1:11                             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-19  0:02                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17 13:24                             ` Mark Brown
2014-05-18 23:56                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-23 17:33                                 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-26 21:19                                 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-26 21:55                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 20:02                     ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-17  3:57                   ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 13:09                     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-17  6:52                       ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-23 17:21                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-03 15:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-04 11:14     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-04 17:18       ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-04 17:27         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-04 22:02           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  2:44             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05 11:22               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  2:52           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05  4:21             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 23:05               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-04 21:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  8:43           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 11:32             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05 11:31               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-06 12:18                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-06 13:35                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-08  0:16                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-12  6:21                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-13 21:14                     ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-13 21:40                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 21:28                         ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-13 21:51                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  3:22                             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-14 12:06                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 12:25                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-18 16:34                           ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-14 12:31                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  3:02                         ` Darren Vincent Hart [this message]
2014-05-17  2:57                       ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-18 16:31                       ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-05 15:09             ` Rob Herring
2014-05-05 16:02               ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-05 16:41                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-05-05 22:55               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-17  2:32             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-05  8:39         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 11:37           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-07 11:05           ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-07 13:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-08  3:27             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-17  2:05               ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17  1:54         ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 23:03           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-18 20:28             ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-18 16:12               ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-19 20:53                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-04 10:56   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-04 12:19     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-04 17:23       ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-04 21:58         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-06  2:41           ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-06 11:41             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-08 11:36               ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-08 12:08                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  4:39             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17  4:33           ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-03  0:23 ` Darren Hart
2014-05-05 16:58 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-06  5:02   ` Darren Hart
2014-05-17  0:32 ` Darren Vincent Hart

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