From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"dvhart@dvhart.com" <dvhart@dvhart.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Driver model/resources, ACPI, DT, etc (sigh)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 16:21:33 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1399875693.17624.95.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11391971.y9GOPHmK72@wuerfel>
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 15:35 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> With ACPI (or a server running OF for that matter), you assume that the
> PCI host is operational and all buses are fully probed and then you
> have methods for doing hotplugging, you just look at the device that
> are already initialized by the firmware.
>
> With embedded systems, you (in general, some steps may get skipped
> in practice) go through a lot more steps:
> - detect the presence of the host bridge device
> - enable clocks, voltages, phys, resets, etc.
> - set up inbound and outbound MMIO and PIO address translation windows
> - perform a full bus scan and assign bus and device resources
>
> We probably woulnd't go through that hassle on ACPI systems. I think
> we shouldn't attempt any translation here, and keep the code completely
> separate, with the common parts being handled by the PCI core as we
> do today.
Well, you said it "or a server running OF for that matter" ...
PCI Hotplug is a whole separate can of worms, let's not get there :-)
Even on OF machine, it's very platform specific. I don't think we can
use it as an example of something that's widely different between DT
and ACPI per-se as it's going to be widely different between everything
non-ACPI.
This is a case of ACPI-does-methods being actually somewhat useful.
Cheers,
Ben.
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-02 21:42 Olof Johansson
2014-05-03 0:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-03 2:02 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-04 12:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05 8:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 19:06 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-06 12:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-12 21:59 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-12 22:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 7:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 10:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 12:11 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13 13:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 19:31 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13 19:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 21:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 13:04 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-15 12:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17 1:11 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-19 0:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17 13:24 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-18 23:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-23 17:33 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-26 21:19 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-26 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 20:02 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-17 3:57 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 13:09 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-17 6:52 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-23 17:21 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-03 15:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-04 11:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-04 17:18 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-04 17:27 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-04 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05 2:44 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05 11:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05 2:52 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05 4:21 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 23:05 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-04 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05 8:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 11:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05 11:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-06 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-06 13:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-08 0:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-12 6:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2014-05-13 21:14 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-13 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 21:28 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-13 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17 3:22 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-14 12:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 12:25 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-18 16:34 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-14 12:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17 3:02 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 2:57 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-18 16:31 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-05 15:09 ` Rob Herring
2014-05-05 16:02 ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-05 16:41 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-05-05 22:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-17 2:32 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-05 8:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 11:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-07 11:05 ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-07 13:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-08 3:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-17 2:05 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 1:54 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 23:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-18 20:28 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-18 16:12 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-19 20:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-04 10:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-04 12:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-04 17:23 ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-04 21:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-06 2:41 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-06 11:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-08 11:36 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-08 12:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17 4:39 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 4:33 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-03 0:23 ` Darren Hart
2014-05-05 16:58 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-06 5:02 ` Darren Hart
2014-05-17 0:32 ` Darren Vincent Hart
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