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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:07:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10423619.jNvHD4M0jW@amdc3058> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uGWBFJ70KPexoyyYiWMOkKTga5KEO5zPtN70pRHBV90cQ@mail.gmail.com>


Hi,

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 03:48:34 PM Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > Tears pretty much guaranteed, and after a few hacks from Alan&me I
> > concluded that the only way to fix this is to at least partially
> > rewrite fbdev (a dead subsystem, so no one's volunteering), with the
> > risk that you get to revert it all because someone is indeed relying
> > on that super-flexible module loading order sequence. The simplest fix
> > would probably be to make the entire fbdev->fbcon setup depency a
> > hard-coded function call, or maybe at most a one-shot symbol_get
> > attempt.
> 
> I did once hash out a plan how to fix this with the least amount of pain:
> 
> 1. Merge a patch to build the fbcon support into the overall fb.ko
> module, so that the dynamic loading nonsense is essentially disabled,
> and fbcon becomes a Kconfig/compile-time only option, no longer a
> runtime-selectable thing.
> 
> 2. Wait 1 year and pray that no one reports a regression. If you're
> unlucky, try to fence them of with a runtime option to disable fbcon.
> 
> 3. Rip out the notifier nonsense and replace it by direct function
> calls. You can only do that once 1. won't be reverted anymore.
> 
> 4. Push the console_lock donw the callchains until it's again at the
> right spots, auditing all the other stuff meanwhile to make sure the
> locking is still correct.
> 
> 5. Apply your patch to make console_lock sane.
> 
> Adding fbdev maintainers and lists just.

Your plan sounds good to me.

Best regards,
--
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
Samsung R&D Institute Poland
Samsung Electronics

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-23  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19  5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19  6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23         ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44             ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27                 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21  7:17                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23  5:43                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:46                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:49                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19  7:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20  7:53                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48                   ` Al Viro
2017-06-25  1:29                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25  2:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26  8:46                         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19  7:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23  9:07             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2017-06-27 13:06               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23  5:20           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20  8:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19  6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  6:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  7:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20  5:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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