From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
ksummit <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>,
laurent pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, users <users@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 14:08:43 +0100 [thread overview]
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On 03.03.26 13:58, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-03-03 at 07:47 -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 10:31:46AM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
>>> On 03. 03. 26, 9:11, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 at 07:26, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Von: "Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>
>>>>>> Add CONFIG_KALLSYMS_LINEINFO, which embeds a compact address-
>>>>>> to-line
>>>>>> lookup table in the kernel image so stack traces directly
>>>>>> print source
>>>>>> file and line number information:
>>>>
>>>>>> Memory footprint measured with a simple KVM guest x86_64
>>>>>> config:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Table: 4,597,583 entries from 4,841 source files
>>>>>> lineinfo_addrs[] 4,597,583 x u32 = 17.5 MiB
>>>>>> lineinfo_file_ids[] 4,597,583 x u16 = 8.8 MiB
>>>>>> lineinfo_lines[] 4,597,583 x u32 = 17.5 MiB
>>>>>> file_offsets + filenames ~ 0.1 MiB
>>>>>> Total .rodata increase: ~ 44.0 MiB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vmlinux (stripped): 529 MiB -> 573 MiB (+44 MiB / +8.3%)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, that's a significant increase.
>>>>
>>>> Other random idea: this data is only needed in case of a crash.
>>>> Perhaps it can be stored compressed, and only be decompressed
>>>> when needed, or even during look-up?
>>>
>>> But obviously not when dumping OOM stack traces :P.
>>
>> Right - I really wanted to avoid memory allocations or disk I/O here.
>>
>> I'm sure we can come up with more efficient ways to store this
>> information - I wanted to keep the initial version simple and easy
>> for review.
>
> When the system is crashing, efficiency (at least as long as the user
> doesn't notice) isn't typically required, so if you did a linear search
> instead of a binary one you could use compressed data that's amenable
> to decompression using a stream algorithm (i.e. only requires a fixed
> length buffer, not decompression of the entire thing), then you stream
> through the compressed data a chunk at a time looking for the match.
And for this data the compression algorithm could be quite simple:
Build chunks of e.g. 1000 entries, allowing to do a quick search for
finding the correct chunk, then scan through the chunk to find the
entry.
Put the start address at the beginning of each chunk, then use a lsb128
coded offset for each entry (offset always relative to last entry, so
most entries would need only 1 byte additional address information).
I guess file ids are fine as u16.
Line numbers could be lsb128 encoded, too, limiting most entries to
2 bytes of additional information.
This simple scheme would already save roughly 50% of the needed space.
Juergen
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2025-12-10 4:48 kernel.org tooling update Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-12-10 8:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-12-10 13:30 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-12-11 3:04 ` Theodore Tso
2025-12-12 23:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-12-12 23:54 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-16 16:21 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-16 20:33 ` Jeff Johnson
2025-12-17 0:47 ` Mario Limonciello
2025-12-18 13:37 ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-18 14:09 ` Mario Limonciello
2026-01-23 9:19 ` Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-23 9:29 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 11:47 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 11:58 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 12:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 12:29 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 13:57 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 16:24 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 16:33 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 16:42 ` Joe Perches
2026-01-23 17:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-23 17:23 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 18:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 21:12 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 16:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 17:32 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 21:01 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:23 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-27 8:39 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-27 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-04 10:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 10:14 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 18:07 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 18:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-26 23:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 21:38 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 22:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 16:38 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 17:02 ` Paul Moore
2026-03-08 7:21 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-03-08 10:24 ` Greg KH
2026-03-18 14:02 ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 18:42 ` kernel.org tooling update Randy Dunlap
2026-02-26 8:44 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-26 14:40 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2026-02-26 17:04 ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-27 11:07 ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-27 15:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18 ` Mark Brown
2026-02-27 15:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Sven Peter
2026-02-27 15:35 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-27 16:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 17:07 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-28 13:41 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-28 15:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-28 18:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-28 20:28 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-01 15:23 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 15:35 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 15:42 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 16:27 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-07 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:15 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-02 8:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-01 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-02 20:28 ` [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 5:39 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 12:44 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 13:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-03 16:35 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-03 19:09 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 6:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-03 6:48 ` Tomasz Figa
2026-03-03 9:04 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-03 12:45 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 8:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 9:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2026-03-03 12:47 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 12:58 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-03 13:08 ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2026-03-03 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 22:44 ` Helge Deller
2026-03-03 22:47 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:01 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:16 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:25 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:33 ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 10:37 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-06 10:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-15 14:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-16 11:28 ` Greg KH
2026-03-16 21:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17 7:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-02 4:59 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 13:07 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 13:28 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:08 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 14:21 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-02 13:51 ` James Bottomley
2026-04-02 13:42 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-04-02 14:04 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:15 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-04-02 15:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-04-02 16:04 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
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