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From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	ksummit <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>,
	laurent pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, users <users@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 14:08:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c0064d6-eda5-4e94-8546-9b605fa327df@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c6e89540a55521f622f820e92ef370e82e285f4.camel@HansenPartnership.com>


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On 03.03.26 13:58, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-03-03 at 07:47 -0500, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 10:31:46AM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
>>> On 03. 03. 26, 9:11, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 at 07:26, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Von: "Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>
>>>>>> Add CONFIG_KALLSYMS_LINEINFO, which embeds a compact address-
>>>>>> to-line
>>>>>> lookup table in the kernel image so stack traces directly
>>>>>> print source
>>>>>> file and line number information:
>>>>
>>>>>> Memory footprint measured with a simple KVM guest x86_64
>>>>>> config:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Table: 4,597,583 entries from 4,841 source files
>>>>>>     lineinfo_addrs[]     4,597,583 x u32  = 17.5 MiB
>>>>>>     lineinfo_file_ids[]  4,597,583 x u16  =  8.8 MiB
>>>>>>     lineinfo_lines[]     4,597,583 x u32  = 17.5 MiB
>>>>>>     file_offsets + filenames              ~  0.1 MiB
>>>>>>     Total .rodata increase:              ~ 44.0 MiB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   vmlinux (stripped):  529 MiB -> 573 MiB  (+44 MiB / +8.3%)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, that's a significant increase.
>>>>
>>>> Other random idea: this data is only needed in case of a crash.
>>>> Perhaps it can be stored compressed, and only be decompressed
>>>> when needed, or even during look-up?
>>>
>>> But obviously not when dumping OOM stack traces :P.
>>
>> Right - I really wanted to avoid memory allocations or disk I/O here.
>>
>> I'm sure we can come up with more efficient ways to store this
>> information - I wanted to keep the initial version simple and easy
>> for review.
> 
> When the system is crashing, efficiency (at least as long as the user
> doesn't notice) isn't typically required, so if you did a linear search
> instead of a binary one you could use compressed data that's amenable
> to decompression using a stream algorithm (i.e. only requires a fixed
> length buffer, not decompression of the entire thing), then you stream
> through the compressed data a chunk at a time looking for the match.

And for this data the compression algorithm could be quite simple:

Build chunks of e.g. 1000 entries, allowing to do a quick search for
finding the correct chunk, then scan through the chunk to find the
entry.

Put the start address at the beginning of each chunk, then use a lsb128
coded offset for each entry (offset always relative to last entry, so
most entries would need only 1 byte additional address information).

I guess file ids are fine as u16.

Line numbers could be lsb128 encoded, too, limiting most entries to
2 bytes of additional information.

This simple scheme would already save roughly 50% of the needed space.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-10  4:48 kernel.org tooling update Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-12-10  8:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-12-10 13:30 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-12-11  3:04   ` Theodore Tso
2025-12-12 23:48   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-12-12 23:54     ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-16 16:21 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-16 20:33   ` Jeff Johnson
2025-12-17  0:47     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-12-18 13:37       ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-18 14:09         ` Mario Limonciello
2026-01-23  9:19 ` Web of Trust work [Was: kernel.org tooling update] Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-23  9:29   ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 11:47     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 11:58       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 12:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 12:29           ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 13:57         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 16:24     ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 16:33       ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 16:42         ` Joe Perches
2026-01-23 17:00           ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-23 17:23         ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 18:23           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 21:12             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 16:23               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 17:32                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-26 21:01                   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:23                   ` James Bottomley
2026-01-27  8:39                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-01-27 21:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-04 10:49                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 10:14                           ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 18:07                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-02-05 18:23                               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-26 23:33                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-26 23:06                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 21:38             ` James Bottomley
2026-01-23 22:55             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-01-23 16:38       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-23 17:02         ` Paul Moore
2026-03-08  7:21     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-03-08 10:24       ` Greg KH
2026-03-18 14:02         ` Greg KH
2026-01-23 18:42 ` kernel.org tooling update Randy Dunlap
2026-02-26  8:44 ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-26 14:40   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2026-02-26 17:04   ` Andrew Morton
2026-02-27 11:07     ` Jani Nikula
2026-02-27 15:16     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` Mark Brown
2026-02-27 15:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-27 15:18       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Sven Peter
2026-02-27 15:35       ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-27 16:22           ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-27 16:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 17:07               ` James Bottomley
2026-02-28 13:41             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-02-28 15:17               ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 17:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-02-28 18:29                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:26                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-28 20:28                       ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-28 20:56                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-01 15:23                           ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 15:35                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 15:42                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:13                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-01 16:27                                   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:01                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-07 16:19                                       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:15                               ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:49                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-02  8:55                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-01 17:33                               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-02 20:28                                 ` [RFC] kallsyms: embed source file:line info in kernel stack traces Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  5:39                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03 12:44                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 13:17                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-03 16:35                                       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 15:22                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-03 19:09                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-03-03  6:26                                   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-03  6:48                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2026-03-03  9:04                                       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-03 12:45                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03  8:11                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03  9:31                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2026-03-03 12:47                                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-03 12:58                                           ` James Bottomley
2026-03-03 13:08                                             ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2026-03-03  8:09                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-03 22:44                                   ` Helge Deller
2026-03-03 22:47                                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:01                             ` slowly decommission bugzilla? James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:16                               ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-01 16:25                                 ` James Bottomley
2026-03-01 16:33                                   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-06 10:37                 ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-06 10:44                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-15 14:58                     ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-16 11:28                       ` Greg KH
2026-03-16 21:56                         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-03-17  7:51                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-02  4:59   ` slowly decommission bugzilla? (was: Re: kernel.org tooling update) Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 13:07     ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 13:28       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:08         ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 14:21           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:49         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-02 13:51       ` James Bottomley
2026-04-02 13:42     ` slowly decommission bugzilla? Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-04-02 14:04       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-04-02 14:15         ` Richard Weinberger
2026-04-02 15:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-04-02 16:04         ` Thorsten Leemhuis

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