On Thu, 2025-09-11 at 14:49 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 09:18:05AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: [...] > > The requirement from Linus for merge is usually incubation in - > > next, so there are very few pull requests that haven't been at > > least a few days in -next.  So what is your complaint?  That the > > incubation period is too short or that every patch should be in - > > next as soon as it hits any maintainer tree rather that > > submaintainers relying on the overall maintainer to do the > > incubation for them? > > One pattern you see with trees that do this is that some bug is found > in -next, the bug is fixed and the patch applied but if the patch is > applied to a tree that isn't in -next you still see the bug in -next > until the pull request to the upstream tree goes through.  Any > incubation that the subtree does before sending their pull request, > or delay in taking the pull request from the subtree, shows up in > additional time that the bug is visible in -next. In theory a fix to a pulled commit, whether separate or rebased, should be treated like a bug fix and go up with speed, so is this simply a missing rule (or encouragement) for a tree not in -next? Regards, James