From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TOPIC] kernel hardening / self-protection / whatever
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 00:53:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0E98DCC5-01EE-4FA7-B6D4-72772279BDFF@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKZb60=3H8faOG53Aq7H3MeST7_syionmFCE2HQFOG8SA@mail.gmail.com>
On 1 Aug 2016, at 00:05, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:55 AM, Paul Burton <paul.burton@imgtec.com> wrote:
>> It would be very interesting to discuss what's needed from arch code for
>> various hardening features, both those currently in mainline & those in
>> development.
I'm interested in such topic as well, primarily from an arm/arm64 perspective.
> - Handling userspace/kernelspace memory segregation. (This is the SMAP
> of x86, PAN of ARM, and just native on s390.) For architectures (or
> chipsets within an architecture) that don't support unprivileged
> memory access restrictions in hardware, we must find a way to emulate
> it. (e.g. 32-bit ARM uses Domains, and 64-bit x86 could use PCIDs,
> etc.) Keeping these regions separate is extremely important in
> stopping exploitation.
For arm64 ARMv8.0 (without hardware PAN), I'm going to post a patch
in a week or so which emulates PAN by switching the user page table (TTBR0)
to the zero page. I guess a similar approach could work for other architectures,
maybe using swapper_pg_dir as the PAN page table.
>> For example MIPS systems are currently showing the "This architecture does
>> not have kernel memory protection." message since d2aa1acad22f (which to a
>> user sounds pretty dire as though user code can freely access kernel data)
>> and which I'd like for MIPS to implement the security to avoid. However
>> because TLB refills are performed by software it's non-trivial, since we
>> generally rely upon the kernel being placed in an unmapped region of the
>> virtual address space & being unmapped there is no TLB entry to mark
>> read-only.
>
> This is actually from the perspective of the kernel, so when the
> kernel code is running, it's mapped, and those entries should all be
> marked read-only. As I mentioned above, we need to consider W^X memory
> permissions a fundamental security protection, and architectures
> should make sure this is completely fixed.
On arm64 we have such feature in hardware: the WXN (write execute never)
bit in SCTLR_EL1. However, this would affect user space as well, so it needs to
be switched only when entering the kernel to avoid ABI breakage. I don't have
the ARM specs at hand but one possible complication is the WXN bit
being cached in the TLB (and invalidating the TLBs on kernel entry/exit
is not practical).
> (And that is stays that
> way: x86 actually scans kernel memory permissions at boot now to make
> sure no writable and executable regions have appeared.)
That's probably a good enough workaround without additional hardware support.
BTW, while not a kernel security feature, I've been asked in the past to enable
execute-only (no read) permissions on arm64 (e.g. mmap(PROT_EXEC)).
I have a simple patch for this, though I'm not 100% sure about user ABI implications.
So far I'm not aware of any user application using PROT_EXEC only and also
expecting PROT_READ.
(Sorry for the email formatting, I'm on holiday and with only a phone as communication device)
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-03 22:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-11 4:28 Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-11 13:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-11 16:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-11 17:57 ` Kees Cook
2016-07-12 16:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-21 15:54 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-11 17:33 ` Jann Horn
2016-07-19 15:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 2:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-20 2:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-20 6:42 ` Herbert Xu
2016-07-21 17:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-11 17:53 ` Kees Cook
2016-07-11 18:07 ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-11 18:59 ` Kees Cook
2016-07-31 9:55 ` Paul Burton
2016-07-31 22:04 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-01 10:47 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-01 19:42 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-03 22:53 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2016-08-04 5:32 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-04 5:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-04 5:54 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-05 0:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-08 23:54 ` Kees Cook
2016-09-09 0:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-04 14:17 ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-04 22:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-01 9:34 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [nominations] " Mark Rutland
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